Text of TeleFinder Chat from Friday, June 12, 1998 11 AM PDT.
In attendance:
From SpiderIsland: Rusty Tucker
Sysops: Bob Nunn, Michael Davidson, Jim Smith, Ken Sutherland,
RobinM, Daniel O'Leary
Michael Davidson: hi Rusty
Michael Davidson: Hi Bob
Michael Davidson: Hey, RT, got a quick ? :)
Rusty Tucker: hi Bob, I need to leave soon.
Rusty Tucker: can you keepa log today?
Michael Davidson: how can I move GateSpool Folder to a different
Drive than MS
Bob Nunn: Hey, sorry I'm late no problem yes will keep the log.
Rusty Tucker: GA MD
Michael Davidson: Sorry, GateWay Spool
Rusty Tucker: its backup day at SI, so I'm on my Wintel today
Rusty Tucker: no bot! :)
Michael Davidson: oooooo...
Michael Davidson: Will MS resolve the alias to GateWay Spool
Bob Nunn: I have had a few people tell me they liked the New Windoze
Client. Most haven't really thrashed it yet.
Rusty Tucker: ?, you'd have to try, I don't think so tho.
Rusty Tucker: I'm nailing a coupla bugs in 400b1 now, look for b2
soon
Rusty Tucker: There's a problem w/ file attachments in b1
Michael Davidson: Ok, then how bout going into MS. config and
changing the short path (it assumes Mail Server folder) to a
different disk/folder path
Rusty Tucker: that will work
Rusty Tucker: you can probably put a full path in if you want
Michael Davidson: Mail Server won't automatically prefix HostHD: TF
Server: Mail Server: to the path to Gateway Spool folder?
Michael Davidson: See, I want all stuff coming into my machine to go
to non-boot HD
Rusty Tucker: the default is a partial path I think like :Gateway
Spool
Michael Davidson: I already have mail & conferences & files
that way
Rusty Tucker: then make a full path to the folder you want the
Gateway folders in
Rusty Tucker: do you know what the res id is?
Michael Davidson: yes, so do you think or do you know that a full
path to a different HD will work in MS. config
Michael Davidson: no on the res id
Rusty Tucker: I think that it will, STR# 29001, 7
Rusty Tucker: careful with those strings!
Michael Davidson: Thanks...how bout having the option to set the path
to Gateway Spool gateway folders
Michael Davidson: Instead of forcing it to be on same HD as MS
host
Rusty Tucker: just trying to keep it simple as possible I guess
Michael Davidson: should I use ResEdit or BBEdit, which is
best...hoping BB, since I change beta's too often
Michael Davidson: I am even moving my SpiderIsland mail folder
(internal gateway) to the GateWay folder
Rusty Tucker: Why not just move Mail Server?
Michael Davidson: I want the hosts separate from the Data
Michael Davidson: only one that can write to my servers boot drive is
me and all the host on the boot drive
Ken Sutherland: Hiya
Michael Davidson: and all the hosts are on the boot drive
((clarification)
Michael Davidson: Anyway, do you KNOW if putting full path in
Ms.config will work
Michael Davidson: Hi Ken..
Rusty Tucker: u need 2 try MD
Michael Davidson: ok
Rusty Tucker: I gotta go now -- will see you all next week, or later
today.
Ken Sutherland: c-ya Rusty Tucker
Bob Nunn: See ya next time.
Michael Davidson: Hey Bob, can you tell me what you have for Local
domains in your MS Server Identity setup
Bob Nunn: headgap.com, bbs.headgap.com, www.headgap.com, probably
something for the tfnet.org as well.
Michael Davidson: Ken, what's happenin?
Bob Nunn: Not sure that was the question. Don't have my server handy
to look at the setup.
Ken Sutherland: I'm hiding from everyone 8-)
Michael Davidson: that's what I wanted
Ken Sutherland: new mail plugin on Monday
Bob Nunn: They been poking at ya in the conferences some. Seems to me
you usually show up here though.
Ken Sutherland: 1.0b3
Ken Sutherland: that's what I thought
Bob Nunn: Rumor has it Jon found a memory leak and its fixed now?
Ken Sutherland: several
Ken Sutherland: only showed with 5.7
Bob Nunn: Well I ain't complaining, I don't have too many problems.
The OT bug bites me more than anything else.
Ken Sutherland: maybe only was with 5.7
Ken Sutherland: Welcome to the Chat Room chat RobinM!
RobinM: Hi
Bob Nunn: Hey
RobinM: sorry I'm late, slept in
RobinM: is this the sysop meeting?
Bob Nunn: Yes
RobinM: groovy
Michael Davidson: Bob, what is the typical email address of one of
your bbs users? address of bbs_user_name@headgap.com OR
bbs_user_name@bbs.headgap.com
Bob Nunn: usually name@headgap.com for my system. The co. system is
first.last@wangs.com
RobinM: Mine are username@thebarn.ml.org
Michael Davidson: thanks
Bob Nunn: Robin, Rusty had to duck out early so we are just shooting
the breeze. Feel free to jump in our ask anything.
RobinM: Cool, thanks, I have a few questions
Michael Davidson: brb
RobinM: First: I finally got everything running (Email, Web hosting,
basic BBS innards) is there anything else I should attach to it? any
Plugins or companion programs?
Ken Sutherland: hey Bob, my ntu is now fitted, all I'm waiting for is
my Cisco 2500
Michael Davidson: is it on the way Ken?
Bob Nunn: I would add the HDS Mail program from highlander. I also
run a web chat program.
Ken Sutherland: yup
Ken Sutherland: also oat
RobinM: Hmm, where can I find those, and are they explained well in
their documentation?
Ken Sutherland: c-ya Jim Smith
Michael Davidson: I THINK Ken might be able to help you Robin
Michael Davidson: :)
Bob Nunn: Online Assistant for Telefinder (OAT) gives you some
extended features. I particularly like the Postmaster feature but
there are many more.
Michael Davidson: I especially liked the list serve to conference
feature
Michael Davidson: of OAT
Bob Nunn: Hit my headgap.com site I have a lot of docs online but you
may have to look around a bit to find it. I also use the listserve to
conf.
RobinM: yeah, I've been using it(Telefinder) for a while, but just
got serious with it last weekend
Ken Sutherland: Hi Robin, my company offer 2 extra programs, as
mentioned. online assistant and hdsweb
Bob Nunn: If you want Newsgroups on your system you will need
Lollipop.
RobinM: cool, and if you guys want, you can visit my BBS:
thebarn.ml.org
RobinM: it has a web page too, but I'm working on it, my graphics man
is busy with school
Ken Sutherland: will do next week
Michael Davidson: That's what I need, a graphics man!
Bob Nunn: Will stop by soon. Let me know if you see anything on my
site you want the html code for and I ll send it to u.
RobinM: hehe, mine is the best, he is the man at Photoshop, I wish I
had a URL of his work laying around
Michael Davidson: Bob's site is definitely worth taking a look at
Robin
RobinM: I'm going now
Michael Davidson: And, you need to visit Ken's site too,
Highlanders
Bob Nunn: When do you think on B3 Ken? This weekend?
Ken Sutherland: nope. its crap at the moment
Michael Davidson: to get OAT & hdsweb
Ken Sutherland: ?
RobinM: wow hey cool, that's what I was thinking of a while back
about the front page (your navigation BBS desktop)
Ken Sutherland: get them from SpiderIsland, its faster
Bob Nunn: RT does have the most bandwidth, but mine isn't too bad
either.
Ken Sutherland: Welcome to the Chat Room chat Daniel O'Leary!
Ken Sutherland: has anyone setup a complete generic web pages folder
yet for those not good at web design? hint hint
Daniel O'Leary: yo
Bob Nunn: I have a Telefinder Tools area that has a bigger assortment
of materials.
Ken Sutherland: hey its the hard drive killer
Daniel O'Leary: Ken kill that bot!
Ken Sutherland: I'll be right back!
Bob Nunn: I have one but I think DO's is better, even with those ugly
backgrounds.
Ken Sutherland: haha
Daniel O'Leary: Am mixing chat with a half day off.
Daniel O'Leary: Hey BN what does that mean... I love ugly BGS.
Bob Nunn: Yes we all know :-)
Bob Nunn: Robin you may want to stop by Daniel's site as well. I
steal some of my better stuff from him.
RobinM: What's the URL?
RobinM: for both Highlander and Daniel's?
Daniel O'Leary: BN I lost everything and am redoing all of it.
RobinM: I think it was highlander
Daniel O'Leary: Mine is kz.eaze.net.
Daniel O'Leary: My primary HD crashed right as I was backing up onto
Jaz carts.
Bob Nunn: Spoke to soon I guess. Good ones to check on though.
Daniel O'Leary: I may have a copy of it at my brothers place, but it
will have to wait until I can get someone to check it.
Daniel O'Leary: Maybe tonight.
Ken Sutherland: sorry about that, I killed the bot and it crashed my
Mac
Bob Nunn: Sorry to hear that Dan. We know now what you will be doing
with your time off. That's a pile of work.
Daniel O'Leary: BN I hope you don't mind that I put folders around
the chat logs.
Daniel O'Leary: Navigation was getting weird in there.
Bob Nunn: Nope glad you did. Would have gotten to it eventually. I
did split the web page up but I need to do the same for it eventually
as well.
Daniel O'Leary: Robin, you should bookmark my site.
RobinM: what was the URL?
Michael Davidson: Guys, I'm going to go try that MS. config
thing...might be back
Daniel O'Leary: It is about 100 MB of good stuff when I get it back
on.
Ken Sutherland: any maybe you will be able to logon !
Daniel O'Leary: kz.eaze.net.
RobinM: ahh, yes I did
Ken Sutherland: dan, got the g3 yet
Daniel O'Leary: I will call my sisterinlaw tonight to have here check
the backups there.
Daniel O'Leary: Not yet ken, just got prices of Mem and disks.
Ken Sutherland: remember to send me the Jaz disk
Daniel O'Leary: About 50% of what Apple wants for the dame thing.
Daniel O'Leary: same thing.
Ken Sutherland: as I have mentioned before, become a apple developer
and get an extra 20% off
Bob Nunn: Robin, One more to try is macnexus.org I stole my idea for
the hot linked graphics from them, at least they inspired me.
Daniel O'Leary: Yeah, thought about that too.
RobinM: hehe, cool
Daniel O'Leary: BN the next site will use mouseovers for
everything...
Daniel O'Leary: grin.
Daniel O'Leary: and degraded pages.
Bob Nunn: I do like that as well. I was thinking about the lit up
menu's. Still ain't too good at Java.
Daniel O'Leary: I'm getting there.
Daniel O'Leary: Can do alot with SSI now.
Daniel O'Leary: All my pages are modular, and I just saw a DHTM/Java
layered animation.3
Daniel O'Leary: Am thinking about doing some of that too.
Bob Nunn: Jon, inspired me to try some of that and with SSI it makes
it easy to give fresh looks. Need some time to try more of that.
Daniel O'Leary: All of my old pages did that. Each month a new ugly
bg and color scheme.
Daniel O'Leary: color scheme actually changed by the hour...
Bob Nunn: My page header is randomly chosen for example but I only
have 2 made and they are very similar.
Daniel O'Leary: AND all content excluded exploder/msn... sent them to
a why am I locking you out page.
Bob Nunn: With a link to Netscape's latest?
Daniel O'Leary: You bet... Am a Netscape partner...
Daniel O'Leary: Got the T-shirt to prove it.
Daniel O'Leary: grin.
RobinM: hehe
Ken Sutherland: dan did u get ip5 running yet
Daniel O'Leary: No Ken... Archive did not unpack.
Ken Sutherland: crap
Daniel O'Leary: Think both were partials.
Ken Sutherland: will do again in segments
Daniel O'Leary: Am wondering now about SoftRaid and HFS+. Wonder if
it works.
Daniel O'Leary: OK.
Daniel O'Leary: BN am getting a new G3.
Ken Sutherland: you are a real pain dan
RobinM: I don't trust any HD raid, or HFS+
Bob Nunn: DO do you have the BillKiller program on your system?
Daniel O'Leary: Sorry Ken.
Daniel O'Leary: Send it Bob.
Ken Sutherland: me 2
Ken Sutherland: I lost my site in Jan. due to HFS+
RobinM: yeah, same happened to my play computer
Daniel O'Leary: I think the File System is suspect.
Ken Sutherland: goto go, catch u later
Daniel O'Leary: I do not want to have multiple partitions. Wish they
would fix whatever is wrong with it.
Ken Sutherland: dan u home?
Daniel O'Leary: Yes Ken....Robin, the system will come with dual 4 GB
drives and SoftRaid.
RobinM: wow, that's nice
Bob Nunn: I am running it on my files drive but am running reg. HFS
on my boot and system drives. I will wait a bit longer for everyone
else to get the bugs identified and fixed.
Daniel O'Leary: BN take it OFF the files drive.
Daniel O'Leary: I would ONLY use it on the conferences/mail
drive.
Bob Nunn: Think so huh, I have had it up a good long while now.
Daniel O'Leary: those get the best return on space.
Bob Nunn: Also get fragged the worst and need most repair. I would
like to recover the space though.
Daniel O'Leary: Conferences and mail are the easiest to
maintain/restore too.
Daniel O'Leary: keep templates of the empty confs, and periodic
backups of the mail area.
Bob Nunn: Good idea. Hadn't thought of the empties templates. Usually
redo by hand.
Daniel O'Leary: I always had that.
Daniel O'Leary: Don't like doing them by hand. Also do a pathmemory
on the template.
Daniel O'Leary: that way you can move it from drive to drive if
needed.
Ken Sutherland: night
Bob Nunn: Good idea. I need to run too. On the phone. See you all
next week unless there is something else.
Daniel O'Leary: OK. What happened to RT today?
Bob Nunn: He had to duck out didn't say. Asked me to keep log.
Bob Nunn: said b2 on windoze version 4 would be out soon.
Daniel O'Leary: Cool Deal... Will be here at my system for the
afternoon if not at the pool!
Daniel O'Leary: phone is 817-367-2558.
Bob Nunn: Robin, I am headgap@headgap.com if I can help with
anything. Bye@!
RobinM: thanks, bye
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