TeleFinder Chat Log

Text of TeleFinder Chat from Friday, March 27, 1998 11 AM PST.

In attendance:

From Spider Island: Rusty Tucker,

Sysops: mikael fredriksson, Bill Gram-Reefer, Donald McHose, Michael Davidson, Kevin Shearon, ewik, Ken Sutherland

Rusty Tucker hola!
Rusty Tucker I'll be right back!
mikael fredriksson hiHI
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Michael!
Rusty Tucker c-ya
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Bill!
Bill Gram-Reefer i miss two chats and everything gets changed!!!
mikael fredriksson ;)
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Michael!
Rusty Tucker c-ya
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Michael!
Rusty Tucker How was your trip Bill?
Bill Gram-Reefer very good, some interesting things going on in the ISP world including caching and peering
Bill Gram-Reefer Lots of DOJ types wandering around asking anyone for an opinion on what to do about the worldcom merger
Rusty Tucker :)
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Donald!
Donald McHose hello all
Rusty Tucker Everyone get the latest goodies?
Donald McHose yupper
Rusty Tucker I'm gong to take a break from the updates for about a week
mikael fredriksson yes
Rusty Tucker ie - this set won't be obsolete tomorrow.
Donald McHose every artist has to stand back and give the whole pic. a look every now and then ;-)
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Kevin!
Michael Davidson Glad to see you Kevin Shearon!
Kevin Shearon Greetings!
Michael Davidson Rusty, my testing found the password for TeleFinder user to be global, not setting specific.
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat ewik!
Michael Davidson Hey ewik!
ewik hey
ewik how's things going all
Michael Davidson (need to get the capitalization worked out in my chat bot)
Rusty Tucker MD that's changed in the most recent TeleFinder User
Kevin Shearon Rusty, how come the new user manager still has bulleted passwords?
ewik I need to do statistics on what browser people are hitting a page on my site any ideas?
Michael Davidson b8, great!, I haven't taken a look yet at it. However, I am glad this has been changed. Thanks Rusty!
ewik what would be the easiest way to do this?
Michael Davidson Make it crash their machine if IE is used, then you'll know! :)
ewik I also need to know what version
Rusty Tucker KS - I haven't added the "lock" down feature to UM yet
ewik I want to know if it is worth having a site that supports browsers like NS 2.0 and mac web
Kevin Shearon So how will it be, un-bulleted?
Rusty Tucker ewik - log the "USER_AGENT" field, then you can pump it into a database
Kevin Shearon or do you have the option to set it as you like?
ewik RT- would I do that with an spml page?
Rusty Tucker It will be un-bulleted.
ewik I guess so
Rusty Tucker Yes ewik, just use the SPML #log
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Ken!
Michael Davidson Hi Ken Sutherland!
Kevin Shearon Rusty-what's the script that's included with UM supposed to do?
Ken Sutherland good evening
Ken Sutherland all
Rusty Tucker It will create a "pub" folder when a user is added/changed
Ken Sutherland fingers out of sync again, oops if i use the work sync will i get sued as well as apple?
Rusty Tucker Dan O'Leary was all gung-ho to make a "New User" script, but so far I have not seen any results.
Ken Sutherland ha ha
ewik cool I will give that a try
Ken Sutherland tied up in java script the last time i spoke to him
Rusty Tucker It would be neat to have a script that would add some welcoming email, a profile and so on.
Rusty Tucker Maybe even a bare bones web site
Bill Gram-Reefer you're evil
Michael Davidson Your bundled script does what now Rusty? Just does a pub folder?
Rusty Tucker yes
Donald McHose I am trying to use your script (RT) as a template to make both "pub" & " my files".I think I gots it .
Kevin Shearon anyone been having problems with the new MS and email attached files? The attached files don't transfer through properly.
Michael Davidson Is there info from the UM event about whether user gets web space?
mikael fredriksson KS any news on a new version of HDS? I got a attachment that send it to macsbug...
Michael Davidson I had one person complain about an attached file not going thru, but that's it Kevin?
Rusty Tucker That's predetermined from your new user settings, so I didn't make a flag in the event, I can add it though.
Ken Sutherland brb
Michael Davidson If you want an auto web, we'll need it Rusty.
Michael Davidson O, I see, maybe not then.
Kevin Shearon Some of my email attachments are not going through, but it seems to be to the same mail Server in Connecticut that seems to be causing the prob. Don't think it's TF
Rusty Tucker Probably not TF.
Rusty Tucker The headers will show which systems its been through.
Michael Davidson What's "my files" Donald McHose, just a courtesy folder?
Kevin Shearon Ah yes the typical vendor response! : )
ewik any word on an FTP plug in for TF?
Donald McHose MD: yes,its an area were students can save a few items they are working on.
Rusty Tucker ? KS got scarce when we asked him about fixes for Web Mail.
Michael Davidson when you say "when a new user is added/changed" Rusty, any change to a user's UM settings triggers the result?
ewik my web mail is working good my only problem is my system bus crashed and I need a new motherboard
Michael Davidson triggers the event I mean?
Rusty Tucker any change to the user triggers it
mikael fredriksson KS if you need I can mail you a copy of the mail that sends my system to macsbug?
Rusty Tucker I would like it to be only for Additions, so consider that part a bug for now.
Michael Davidson So, new user settings for web won't help us when we change a setting for a non-new user concerning web page...maybe then we do need that info in the event
Ken Sutherland sorry guys, I'm dealing with the kids, back in 5/10 min.s
mikael fredriksson ewik what type of mac?
Michael Davidson okay, new users only in the future Rusty. Is that what you have decided?
ewik 6100
ewik it is still under warranty
Rusty Tucker yes MD
Michael Davidson Makes things simpler then.
mikael fredriksson what happens with it? maybe time for a new battery
Donald McHose ;-)
Ken Sutherland mf, please forward any relevant files please
ewik na I replaced the battery a few months ago
ewik it crashed and I can't get it to boot from anything even a CD or floppy
Ken Sutherland remove the hd
Ken Sutherland it can hold down everything
ewik god I hope it is not the drive
ewik that would suck
mikael fredriksson KS its in your mail here on SI
Ken Sutherland in the past my 6100 went bang and refused to work until i removed the internal and booted from backup
Ken Sutherland then i powered up drive and fixed with ndd
ewik hmm
ewik that drive has got my web site on it
ewik well one of them
Ken Sutherland backup
ewik last back up was in February
Ken Sutherland brb
Michael Davidson Does everybody here run Applescript on their servers?
ewik have it installed but do not use it
Donald McHose RT: This AM I was getting 5k b/s from you to me using TF and from me to the ( Indian Land's )server using TBk2.The net was wide open for a crippled Mac and a 28.8
Donald McHose MD: I'll be trying that with a faint heart next week .
Michael Davidson Rusty, is there a command to Get Users in this room like their is "UsersOnline"?
Michael Davidson their=there
ewik I have to get on see you all later
Rusty Tucker c-ya
Rusty Tucker not for Apple script
Michael Davidson I was thinking of adding a watch for outgoing text "Users!" that would have my chat bot get or update users in the room.
Michael Davidson So, I can do it for all users online, but not for users in the chat room, correct?
Kevin Shearon adios
Rusty Tucker right
Rusty Tucker c-ya
Rusty Tucker I'm going to close out early today, any last Q's?
Donald McHose RT: naw, not from here have a great week-end ya'll.
Ken Sutherland yes, when will we see a rhapsody beta
Rusty Tucker Welcome to the Chat Room chat Peter!
Michael Davidson tonight Ken, in your dreams :)
Ken Sutherland 8-), night might
Rusty Tucker c-ya
Michael Davidson Hello Peter Wong!
Rusty Tucker c-ya
Rusty Tucker c-ya