TeleFinder Chat Log

Text of TeleFinder Chat from Friday, October 21, 1997 11 AM PDT.

In attendance:

Hosting for Spider Island: mikael fredriksson

Sysops: Michael Davidson, Donald McHose, Daniel Parker, Bill Gram-Reefer

Michael Davidson: Hi Mikael!

mikael fredriksson: Hi!

Michael Davidson: Hey, are you the one that batch processed thumbnails in PhotoShop?

mikael fredriksson: yes

Michael Davidson: Did you use Applescripting to do it?

mikael fredriksson: I made miniature versions of JPEGs

Michael Davidson: Oh, so you didn't do thumbnails?

mikael fredriksson: Its built in to Photoshop 4 record what you want it to do and then run it in batch mode

Michael Davidson: Hello Daniel.

Daniel Parker: Hi+

Daniel Parker: When is northern hemisphere daylight saving?

Michael Davidson: I don't know if you know it or not Daniel, but Rusty won't be here today, he's out of town at a Tech seminar.

Daniel Parker: That's O.K, I canÕt say long anyway

Michael Davidson: It ends soon Daniel, but I'm not sure which day, soon in Oct.

mikael fredriksson: daylight saving will end on Sunday

mikael fredriksson: in Europe

Michael Davidson: So you record an applescript session in Photo, or does Photo have its own macro making record

Daniel Parker: Yay, in more readily

Daniel Parker: I've got to go, bye

Michael Davidson: And, could you save with thumbnails in Photo in batch mode? (I'm not much of a PhotoHead)

Michael Davidson: bye Daniel

mikael fredriksson: You can record almost everything that you normally can do in Photoshop and then play it in batch mode

Michael Davidson: ok

Michael Davidson: That only for Photo 4, or does 3 allow the same kind of recording?

mikael fredriksson: Only Photoshop 4

mikael fredriksson: Do you use the email plugin from Highlander?

Michael Davidson: One more ?, what are the types Photo lets you save in, I know they are limited (PEG, PICT???)

Michael Davidson: No sorry Mikael, I don't

mikael fredriksson: Lets take look ;-)

Michael Davidson: Still having problems with it?

Michael Davidson: Hi Donald!

Donald McHose: Hi ya'll did I miss to much ?

Michael Davidson: Rusty won't be here today, he's at a Tech conference.

mikael fredriksson: No ;-)

Michael Davidson: No Donald, not much. I bet you and mikael might want to discuss the mail plugin

Donald McHose: So I read , hope the best

Donald McHose: Now that would be a subject for sure;-)

Michael Davidson: Too bad Jonathan ain't here!!!!

mikael fredriksson: The 0.9b3 has expired I think

Michael Davidson: Sounds like he needs to spruce up his documentation for the plug-in!

Donald McHose: My latest endeavor is to be able to mail or reply.I sent J a note on the HD map

Donald McHose: He said the Pi does not except colons ?

Michael Davidson: So, I suppose there is another way to set paths??? OR....

Michael Davidson: must you put things in exactly the correct path or no-go?

mikael fredriksson: My copy refuse to work now and the one on Spider island web server do the same thing now

Donald McHose: My thought, too.I did a path from Hard drive: all the way to mail and still get a mail server not what ever..

Donald McHose: but still UM puts colons in the path way

Donald McHose: That's just beautiful ;-(

Michael Davidson: yes UM does, so how is it that the plug-in doesn't use them???

mikael fredriksson: I think that you have to wait for a new beta (or he can put the expiration date in your pw)

Michael Davidson: Mikael, are you saying that the latest version has expired and there is no version yet to replace it?

Donald McHose: I'll have to how JP does it I sent him my path asking him to fix it since I must be using Microsoft logic.

Michael Davidson: Is Bob Nunn's working still or has it shut down too?

Donald McHose: He's updating a new version any day now I think

mikael fredriksson: There is a 30 day test period but I started to use mine 9/27 and it has expired (as the one here on SI)

Donald McHose: Bob was up last night.

mikael fredriksson: There is a 30 day test period but I started to use mine 9/27 and it has expired (as the one here on SI)

Michael Davidson: hmmm....wish Jon was here

Donald McHose: Expire from day of reg. ?

Michael Davidson: Donald, hope your's doesn't expire before you get it working :)

Donald McHose: Thanx me too...I have faith that I'll have it up any day now

Michael Davidson: hey, do you need the path set not just to mail but to mail:mail server???

Michael Davidson: mikael, can you give Donald the path you have set for the plugin?

Michael Davidson: maybe he can figure it out from that

mikael fredriksson: I found that you have full paths to all your mailboxes to get it to work

Donald McHose: I tried that or I thought I had path is Hard Drive:...mail

Michael Davidson: so you must set all the paths to each user, not just to the Mail folder?

mikael fredriksson: In User Manager like MSDN:TeleFinder(tm) Server:User Manager Ä:Mail:

Donald McHose: Yeah I did this on all accounts

mikael fredriksson: Yes!

Michael Davidson: He should fix that; his program should find the folder in the Mail folder and not require each user to be set.

Michael Davidson: Then have you set up the Access Group properly Donald?

Donald McHose: Good question

Michael Davidson: That makes sense, if I understand what isn't working for you.

mikael fredriksson: Yes, i think Rusty did write here on what system call he should use in a sysop chat

mikael fredriksson: Did you setup the Realms for admin?

Donald McHose: I'll do a look see later

Michael Davidson: Have you given the selected users access to the plug in gateway (if such a thing needs to be set like for other gateways)

Donald McHose: Yeah SIUM works like a charm

Michael Davidson: hmmm....what's left...is it the Realms thing?

mikael fredriksson: mine is Realm name: admin Match String: pi_admin Acces Groups: Sysop

Donald McHose: NO ... I do not think it is in the realm...probably more like my path string as ya'll have stated.The realm works

Donald McHose: A user can log on...read mail..but not answer

Donald McHose: using the web that is

Michael Davidson: maybe mess up the realm thing and see if you get the same error as you do know; that might narrow down where the problem is

Michael Davidson: Then maybe the path to Mail Server mail folder is messed up since that is probably where their mail should be headed to first

Michael Davidson: that know should be now above

mikael fredriksson: This is my Path to Web Pages Home Directory: MSDN:TeleFinder(tm) Server:Web Space:

Michael Davidson: mikael, does outgoing mail from the plug in go first to the Mail Server mail folder or is there a plug in Gateway that it goes into the Export folder of

mikael fredriksson: Do you have the full path there in the TF server?

mikael fredriksson: I think it has to go thru Mail Server and its mail folder

Donald McHose: As far as I know I do .I set a full mail path for each user

mikael fredriksson: yes

Donald McHose: I do not remember that it goes to mail server though,just to mail

Michael Davidson: Do you have a plug-in gateway folder in the Mail Server Ä:Gateway Spool: folder?

mikael fredriksson: But do you have the full path in TF server to where your Web folder is?

mikael fredriksson: No

Michael Davidson: So, my guess is, and I don't use plug in, but that outgoing mail goes to the Mail:Mail Server folder first, and Mail Server sends it

Michael Davidson: Do you know if the above is true?

Bill Gram-Reefer: sorry I'm late

mikael fredriksson: Hi Bill!

Donald McHose: I suspect I do( path to web serv.) since I serve web well :-).......

Donald McHose: Hi Bill..

Bill Gram-Reefer: hello all

Michael Davidson: Hi Bill. Rusty won't be here today, he's at a Tech conference

Bill Gram-Reefer: i know. some newspaper conf

Donald McHose: BRB

mikael fredriksson: I think that the Plugin need full paths to all mailboxes AND to the Web Space (User Manager and Node Server)

mikael fredriksson: + the realms thing

Bill Gram-Reefer: ?

Michael Davidson: What about to the Mail Server gateway mail folder

mikael fredriksson: That too..

Donald McHose: Bill:Talking about Jonathan's mail Plug-in and my not able to configure it correctly

Bill Gram-Reefer: which plugin is being theorized about?

Michael Davidson: That is the Mail Server folder in the Mail folder, which is the Mail Server Gateway folder, which probably handles the outgoing mail

Bill Gram-Reefer: OK, thanks

Donald McHose: That is my impression

Michael Davidson: Since, I assume, the Mail Server folder handles the outgoing mail, and Don is having trouble there, I think he should reexamine his path to the Mail:Mail Server folder for errors

Donald McHose: MD:I do that thanx.

Michael Davidson: Is there a settings for the plug-in to say where outgoing mail should go?

mikael fredriksson: Yes that all "users" have the full path to "Mail Location" in User Manager

mikael fredriksson: no

mikael fredriksson: You only enter name and password and your set to go

mikael fredriksson: On the reg page

Michael Davidson: So mikael, have you ever seen a spool file (a location of a spool file) for outgoing mail when you use the plug in

mikael fredriksson: No

Donald McHose: MF:yep-n-that works like a charm..also about that shared address book?

Michael Davidson: :(

Donald McHose: MY address book entries are shared by all users trying the Web- mail:pi

Michael Davidson: Donald, does it stop you from sending or replying; or does it allow it but never send?

Donald McHose: Bill: Still writing for a living?

Donald McHose: I get a mail server does not resolve..J feels it is a mail path thing...we'll see

Bill Gram-Reefer: Don make your nasty self available for an Instant Message

Donald McHose: Oops der Kids have arrived and I gots ta run , thanx for all your help.Hope chat logger gets all this.bye

Michael Davidson: bye Donald, I got to run too. Bye all.