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Text of TeleFinder Chat from Friday, December 16, 1997 11 AM PST.

In attendance:

From Spider Island: Rusty Tucker was out

Sysops: Jim Smith, Bob Nunn, Michael Davidson, Don McHose, mikael
fredriksson, Kevin Shearon, Bill Gram-Reefer

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     Jim Smith: <<joined the chat>>

     Bob Nunn: <<joined the chat>>

     Donald McHose: <<joined the chat>>

     Donald McHose: Happy Holidays ya'll ;-)

     Michael Davidson: <<joined the chat>>

     Michael Davidson: Hello Jim, Bob, Donald

     Donald McHose: Hi Michael how are things ?

     Bob Nunn: Hey

     Michael Davidson: Busy busy buys

     Donald McHose: Well our T-1 lasted a day but it was nice to see TF
     cook.

     Michael Davidson: just a day?

     Donald McHose: Its a county/telephone co. problem.Its out of my
     hands

     Bob Nunn: Jim what did you ever do about your last 1710?

     Jim Smith: It's in for repair!

     Michael Davidson: Any important stuff been happening...I've missed
     a bunch of the last chats

     Bob Wright: <<joined the chat>>

     Bob Nunn: You can now pay for your OAT and HDS program through
     Kagi and get your permanent serial number

     Bob Nunn: I sent my payment in Sunday, got confirm Monday, and my
     Serial number today.

     Michael Davidson: What's the HDS program (I told you I've been
     absent lately :) )

     Donald McHose: How are the last releases doing? Any reported
     problems?

     Bob Nunn: Allows advanced web mail via your tf server.

     Michael Davidson: the PI from Jonathan and Ken?

     Donald McHose: ah yup

     Bob Nunn: I have been using the latest for a while now. THE HDS
     mail is perfect. OAT I only use part of the features but they have
     been solid for the last few versions. Yes HDS is a PI from
     Highlander

     Michael Davidson: What does the H, the D, and the S stand for then

     Donald McHose: Fantastic I can't wait to load it up.

     Bob Nunn: Highlander Data Systems Mail?

     Donald McHose: that's as good as any

     Bob Nunn: Ken says they are releasing a WebStar version soon, but
     the TF version will continue to be superior due to Mail Server.

     Michael Davidson: cool

     Kevin Shearon: <<joined the chat>>

     Michael Davidson: Jim, any more progress on Popsicle? I'm ready
     for the final beta version!

     Jim Smith: MD: it's complete, just need to work on doc.!

     Jim Smith: Thinking of adding to it and make program call Pop2top.

     mikael fredriksson: <<joined the chat>>

     Bob Nunn: Hey mikael, have you heard anything about the release of
     8.1. I was under the impression it would be in December?

     mikael fredriksson: Hi!

     Michael Davidson: <<left the chat>>

     Kevin Shearon: <<left the chat>>

     Donald McHose: Dec. will be a net downloadable release.the C.D is
     supposed to be out in late Jan. $90.00 is the rumor

     mikael fredriksson: I think it will be on their FTP in the end of
     December and on CD in January

     Kevin Shearon: <<joined the chat>>

     Jim Smith: Apple likes to release thing at MacWorld, maybe 8.1 *)

     Jim Smith: Apple has stop FTP seeding :(

     mikael fredriksson: I use on my work computer 8.1b5 stable and
     fast and i like HFS+

     Bob Nunn: I am hurting for drive space and am thinking the 8.1
     would be help with these big drives and big blocks. Would be good
     project for vacation during holidays (reformatting).

     mikael fredriksson: I saved 500 MB on my work mac with a 2 GB HD

     Donald McHose: Is there a speed hit on the hard drive? HFS+ I
     mean?

     Bill Gram-Reefer: <<joined the chat>>

     Bill Gram-Reefer: it's a FREAK

     Jim Smith: Where is Rusty today?

     Bob Nunn: I have two 3.2 and a 2.0 drive that are getting full. It
     should be like getting another 1 gig drive or so for me as well.
     Hopefully more.

     mikael fredriksson: He's out of town

     Donald McHose: What's a FREAK?

     mikael fredriksson: Its bill ;-)

     Bill Gram-Reefer: RT's term for "final candidate" for a release of
     5.6

     Bob Wright: FREAK -- a woman built to say yes ;)

     Bob Wright: now THAT'S a FREAK ;0

     Donald McHose: AH YUP.I can't wait to run it soon.

     Bob Wright: I am surprised RT does not spell it PHreak ;)

     Bob Nunn: Looks like its done to me. Guess he will continue to
     work on the docs.

     Bill Gram-Reefer: so I just installed a Global Village flex 56 for
     my TCP gateway and it isn't that much faster

     Donald McHose: <<left the chat>>

     mikael fredriksson: Docs are in the Beta Spider Wares folder

     mikael fredriksson: (its the real thing)

     Bob Nunn: I was thinking along the lines of the web docs etc. I
     pulled the updated Admin today. I was going to print them out this
     week when things slow down. 171 pages.

     Bob Nunn: It's either that or get a system in the bathroom. Can't
     do any real thinking at my system.

     Bob Wright: Hmm...that's an idea BN, I just put a NT network in my
     house...I did not think about wiring the bathroom ;)

     Bob Wright: Maybe I could install a QuickCam and see what takes my
     wife so long to get dressed ;)

     Bob Nunn: Would like a G3 laptop in there.

     Jim Smith: That would be a good place for the AV1710, it's good
     for sh.t.

     Bill Gram-Reefer: Speaking of G3 so should I get a G3 or get one
     of the new upgrade cards from Newer for $500 to upgrade my 6100?

     Kevin Shearon: <<left the chat>>

     mikael fredriksson: We have G3 mac in stock at work but its here
     in Gothenburg Sweden ...

     Bob Nunn: Club Mac has a few in stock the other day.

     Jim Smith: BN: ISDN?

     Bob Nunn: They promise by this Friday???

     Bob Wright: mikael: is it true that is Sweden a tree and goat gets
     decorated for Christmas?

     Bill Gram-Reefer: It's really a time issue for me. If I buy a new
     computer it turns into horsing around with 3 computers as I would
     decommission Centris, put TF on 6100 and use G3 at desk. Not the
     way I want to spend Xmas.

     Jim Smith: Maybe that why is so cheep in TN :)

     Bob Nunn: They say that. Big demand. While the problems are solved
     they are waiting on parts.

     Bob Wright: I ordered my ISDN and it was installed two weeks later

     Jim Smith: I have a Centris 650 w/ a PPC, and have notice that
     sometime a logon to TFS will timeout, modem, maybe it's time to
     replace it?

     Bob Wright: BN: I have been thinking about your statement last
     week (i.e. things tend to slow down on the mac and I might need to
     restart.)

     Bob Nunn: Am tied up. BRB

     Bob Wright: BN: When I change the web settings, I notice it takes
     a bit of time to quit the web server and restart...could this be
     an example of what you were discussing with me?

     mikael fredriksson: The web server has to wait for open TCP/IP
     connections to close

     Bob Wright: Ahh.....ok, Thanks.

     Jim Smith: <<left the chat>>

     Bob Wright: BN is busy today

     Bob Nunn: Sorry guys will be a while longer. Continue without me
     for now.

     Bill Gram-Reefer: MF give us a topic

     Bob Nunn: Was hoping Ken would show up now that people are
     starting to pay him

     Bill Gram-Reefer: happy holidaze, guys, gotts to go, bye

     Bill Gram-Reefer: <<left the chat>>

     Bob Nunn: Probably ought to call it a day. What do you think?

     Bob Wright: yep

     Bob Wright: have a good week. See ya later

     Bob Wright: <<left the chat>>

     Bob Nunn: See ya Friday. Rusty back?? Bye

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