I have experienced crashes with 5.7 FReC 6 and MacOS 8.5. Error was a -10 that I think happened while I was accessing a page from work, that had a bunch of screen shots on it, included sequentially. No MacsBug log, because MacOS 8.5 DISABLED it by renameing it Macsbug Obsolete during the installation process!!! --- Daniel O'Leary, Sysop KloneZone Mac - A TeleFinder 5.7 Mac/Windows BBS