I figure that if 1% of my requests ever make it into print I am doing well--responses like this from people who write or implement software probably help the economy by encouraging new start-ups or encouraging companies to write their own.
When I pay my money, I am paying for software, not for a philosophy of running my business, and certainly not suggestions for additional work I need to do.
I know what I want--I have told you what I want--You don't want to do it--Fine--subject ended
Just as we have ended--simply scores of other modest and relatively easy-to-implement requests.
Just spare the philosophy and easy 12 step work arounds--I need to spend my time earning money to pay for the software I buy.
On 1/4/99 11:45 AM, Rusty Tucker wrote:
>On 12/30/98 3:53 PM, Jim DeHaven wrote: > >>In fact, the reason I want to be able to see the passwords is just as >>persuasive from a security standpoint. Since I now have several hundred > >>people with access to these computers, and since stealing one another's > >>computer identities is, at times, an indoor sport for students, I want >>to be able to ask them **what they think** their password is. If their >>answer is close, I can correct their mistake over the phone--otherwise >>they have to truck over to my office with ID. If I can't do this, then >I > > >Sounds like you could implement a "digital id" when they sign up. The >"digital id" would be like a 2nd password known to you and the user. If >they forget their pw and call you up, you get the "digital id" over the >phone and go from there. > >>For the first 8-10 years of its existence, TF displayed openly the >>passwords. I don't think it is necessary to go to the other extreme and > >>not let anyone see them--the fact that I can do that using resedit > >10 yrs ago the online world was a lot different. You dialed up a couple >of BBSes tranfered files, and chatted. Maybe sent email to other users >on the BBS. > > >Now, you've can shop, bank, and trade stocks online. The value of >passwords has increased accordingly. I don't want the sysops of those >systems to know my password, whey should I want you to know my password? > If you know one, you can probably guess the other don't you think? > > > >Roel Wigboldus wrote: > >>We NEVER disclose a complete password by phone, unless we personally >know >>the user. In the same way we NEVER give him or her a new one, unless we > >>are 100% convinced to deal with a bonafide user. > >Exactly. You need to confirm who they are first. You can also use the >phone number they supplied when signing up and call them back. You >don't need to know their password to confirm their identity. > > > > > >Rusty Tucker >Spider Island