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From: Jim DeHaven <Jim_DeHaven@spider
To: Andrew Watts & RT & others
Subject: RE: uploading web file
Date:Mon, September 07, 1998 08:54 PM






On 9/3/98 4:14 AM, Andrew Watts wrote:


>I think the addition of an FTP server within TFS would be a major
>advancement and one which will save the use of personal web pages on our
>TFS. Unfortunately due to the less than easy way of uploading multiple
>pages and folders to their web space, most (actually, probably all) of
>our users have migrated to our Microsoft IIS running on NT for their
>personal shares.
>

I agree that FTP would be nice--but I asked for something much more modest--that people be able to drag an entire folder from the finder (or its win95 equivalent) to a folder on the BBS. Here is the reply I got

<<On 8/31/98 6:12 PM, Jim DeHaven wrote:

>automatically upload new files to one's web site, or just uploasd the
>entire site. Can't say I blame the--who wants to stand around loading
>files over the

They use FTP.. which is what we really need instead of changes to the TF file transferring.


Rusty Tucker>>

This is to RT:

But see--**I** asked for changes to to TF file transferring--**we**--I don't know this person **we**--check that--I think **we** has been asking for FTP for 2 years now and have gotten other responses in other times and places telling them why **they** (still another person, didnt really want that at that time.

The strength and uniqueness of TF is its BBS--that is what distinguishes it from other web servers. Its BBS is a place where people can chat, upload files and start conference topics and have them generated ob the fly as a web page--PEOPLE LIKE THIS\T--I KNOW THIS BECAUSE THEY TELL ME--it is the distinctive thing about TF that has gotten kudos from my faculty members--YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!!!!!!!--for the TF system. Why can't you listen to what people want rather than telling them what they ***ought** to want.

When I drag a folder to a BBS icon, I get a download icon and when I let go I get a beep and the folder springs back to the computer desktop. Clearly TF software detects that I am trying to upload a folder and responds accordingly. When I go to the menu and select NEW->FOLDER..., TF allows me to name and create a new folder. Clearly there already exists in the TF software, routines which recognize and respond to the attempt on the part of the user to upload a folder, and other routines which create a folder on the BBS/WEB server computer.

I can't see where connecting these two would constitute a burdensome change in either the philosophy or implementation of the TF interface. There would be bookeeping details to be sure--there would need to be a scan for identical folders and/or files and some sort of warning (just as there now is for individual files).

But what is the alternative? Fetch? direct access to the BBS/WEB servers file system? Or some cumbersome added set of permissions? Might be worth it--but for now, the simplicity and elegance of locating the users web page in their mail box would be enhanced by letting them upload folders to that box.


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