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From: Rick Palmer <Rick_Palmer@spider
To: Syd Sellers <Syd_Sellers@metrol
Subject: Re: keep it up/ok dokey
Date:Fri, February 27, 1998 08:42 PM


Talking about crashing....I seem to have a problem as well, I can't keep this server running for more than a few hours at a time...I have tried just about everything to try and find out what hangs the system...12-14 hours is the max it will run without a system restart...It hangs!!!!

Can someone outline how long they can keep things running without a hang or crash?? Also, what amount of memory you have given each application of TF..

You should strip out everything that isn't necessary. Quite surfing the net on it. :)

I do one thing that I can't swear is necessary but might be. I run MacOS Purge every two hours to free any stuck RAM. That might be important in tight memory conditions especially if you use it as a workstation even more especially if you run any Microsoft products on it. (they are nasty about releasing memory back to the system heap)

I do reboot everynight really don't think I need to...I have 2 other Macs that I don't reboot can't remember the last time they went down...but they don't write as many files to and from the disk...they serve.

Im running a Power Computing 180 603e with 144 megs RAM although I don't use nearly all the RAM available and could scrunch things down condsiderable if I want to experiment.

MacOS 8
Telefinder Server 50 megs RAM it needs all of it. caching 800 files 50 threads running 20 nodes 20,000 to 40,000 webpages perday and 100,000 + email transactions. Quite a bit of SSI going on.

Mail Server 10 megs RAM Doesn't need near that much.

UserManager 5 megs RAM Doesn't need near that much.

Rumpus Pro 15 megs RAM May need that much. (a little unstable adding members from the GUI...add them in the userdatabase in the prefs folder with BBedit- other wise very stable in operation)

MacOS Purge every 2 hours using Powerkey macro
Reboot every night using PowerKey macro
PowerKey brings TF server to the front every 20 minutes
I run Norton, then disk firstaid and then delete the desktopdb once a month
rarely find anything.

Running finger pluggin
Web Admin pluggin

Name    Size    Version Type    Creator
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Extensions
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Disinfectant INIT  7,857 bytes 3.7.1   INIT    D2CI
Apple CD-ROM    96,214 bytes    5.4 INIT    psap
Apple Ethernet CS II    64,808 bytes    1.1 ndrv    cfrg
Apple Guide 874,758 bytes   2.2 INIT    reno
AppleScriptLib  28,489 bytes    1.2.2   shlb    cfmg
AppleScript(tm)    467,579 bytes   1.1.2   INIT    ascr
AppleShare  257,642 bytes   3.7.1   RDEV    afpt
AutoGuest INIT 2.0  5,395 bytes 2.0a1   INIT    ague
Color Picker    508,042 bytes   2.1 INIT    cpmg
Contextual Menu Extension   74,213 bytes    1.0.1   INIT    cmnu
Energy Saver Extension  89,657 bytes    2.0.5   INIT    wnke
Ethernet (Built-In) 53,767 bytes    1.0.5   ndrv    cfrg
EtherTalk Phase 2   15,203 bytes    2.5.7   adev    et20
Farallon PCI-10 27,412 bytes    1.0 ndrv    SSFE
File Sharing Extension  194,076 bytes   7.6.2   INIT    hhgg
File Sharing Library    94,697 bytes    8.0 shlb    cfrg
Foreign File Access 34,678 bytes    5.1 INIT    ufox
LaserWriter 8   653,554 bytes   8.4.3   PRER    vgrd
Open Tpt AppleTalk Library  541,141 bytes   1.2 libr    OMGR
Open Tpt Internet Library   481,470 bytes   1.2 libr    OMGR
Open Transport Library  583,729 bytes   1.2 libr    OMGR
OpenTptAppleTalkLib 59,106 bytes    1.2 shlb    otan
OpenTptInternetLib  277,253 bytes   1.2 shlb    otan
OpenTransportLib    533,676 bytes   1.2 shlb    otan
OpenTransportLib.68K    50,780 bytes    1.2 shlb    MPS
OT AutoPush Support 16,201 bytes    1.0 INIT    PüSH
PowerKey Extension  187,384 bytes   3.3.3   appe    PKPr
QuickTime(tm)  1,446,301 bytes 2.5 INIT    ånd6
QuickTime(tm) MPEG Extension   254,264 bytes   1.0 INIT    mjh*
QuickTime(tm) Musical Instruments  477,727 bytes   2.5 INIT    dvb
QuickTime(tm) PowerPlug    905,395 bytes   2.5 INIT    ånd8
QuickTime(tm) VR   550,400 bytes   2.0.1   INIT    qtvr
Serial (Built-in)   58,031 bytes    1.3.1   libr    OMGR
Shared Library Manager  168,325 bytes   2.0.1   INIT    OMGR
Shared Library Manager PPC  211,694 bytes   2.0.1   INIT    OMgr
StuffIt Engine(tm) 737,874 bytes   4.0 SITL    SITe
Text Encoding Converter 161,120 bytes   1.2 shlb    encv
Timbuktu Extension  547,846 bytes   2.0 appe    T$2c


Extensions (Disabled)
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ATI Graphics Accelerator    70,866 bytes    1.2.2   INIT    ATI
Color SW 1500   827,950 bytes   2.2.1   PRER    chle
Color SW 2500   828,210 bytes   2.2.1   PRER    auro
Color SW Pro    410,485 bytes   1.5.2   PRER    CRKt
ColorSync(tm)  588,624 bytes   2.1.2   INIT    sync
Desktop Printer Spooler 42,084 bytes    2.0.2   appe    dtps
Desktop PrintMonitor    113,241 bytes   2.0.2   APPL    prmt
ImageWriter 46,097 bytes    7.0.1   PRES    IWRT
Iomega Driver   69,015 bytes    5.0.3   INIT    id40
LaserWriter 300/LS  318,147 bytes   1.2 PRER    LWL2
LaserWriter 8   653,554 bytes   8.4.3   PRER    vgrd
Printer Share   80,493 bytes    1.1.3   INIT    pbc2
PrintingLib 877,749 bytes   8.4.3   shlb    vgrd
PrintMonitor    64,053 bytes    7.1.2   APPL    prmt
Speech Manager  30,312 bytes    1.4 INIT    ttsc
StreamWatcher Module    2,598 bytes 1.0 shlb    otan
°AppleVision    493,622 bytes   1.5.2   INIT    avav


Control Panels
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Appearance  241,833 bytes   1.0 APPC    apcp
Apple Menu Options  54,487 bytes    1.1.3   cdev    CDJR
AppleTalk   211,555 bytes   1.1 cdev    atdv
Control Strip   42,796 bytes    1.4.1   cdev    sdev
Date & Time 78,478 bytes    8.0 APPC    tim2
Energy Saver    209,911 bytes   2.0.5   APPC    wnkl
File Sharing    643,875 bytes   8.0 APPC    shcp
General Controls    58,517 bytes    7.7 cdev    misc
Mac OS Easy Open    140,986 bytes   1.1.3   cdev    meo
Map 39,990 bytes    7.5.1   cdev    wmap
Memory  41,022 bytes    7.5.8   cdev    mmry
Monitors & Sound    173,464 bytes   1.3 APPL    alav
Mouse   27,885 bytes    7.5.4   cdev    mous
Numbers 16,035 bytes    7.1 cdev    nbrs
PC Exchange 335,075 bytes   2.1.1   cdev    dosa
QuickTime(tm) Settings 16,139 bytes    2.5 cdev    ånd7
Startup Disk    8,279 bytes 7.6.1   cdev    sdsk
TCP/IP  297,692 bytes   1.2 cdev    ztcp
Text    14,994 bytes    7.1 cdev    tecd
Users & Groups  770,075 bytes   8.0 APPC    ugcp


Control Panels (Disabled)
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AutoRemounter   21,218 bytes    1.2.5   cdev    Remt
ColorSync(tm) System Profile   12,738 bytes    2.1 cdev    synC
Desktop Pictures    863,752 bytes   1.0 APPC    dkpx
Keyboard    46,654 bytes    8.0 APPC    kycp
Launcher    61,324 bytes    3.1 cdev    mash
Speech  105,334 bytes   1.5 cdev    earc


System Folder
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MacTCP DNR  3,455 bytes -   cdev    mtcp


Startup Items
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User Manager alias  591 bytes   5.6b1   adrp    EJT1
Mail Server alias   542 bytes   5.6 adrp    UL99
TeleFinder(tm) Server alias    591 bytes   5.6.1   adrp    EJT3
€ Rumpus Pro 1.1.1 alias    777 bytes   Rumpus 1...   adrp    Rmps

I am having such great success with TF that I'm glad to help in anyway I can-call if you like. Shoot me some email I'll tell ya where Im at!

rick
repalmer@oz.sunflower.org









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