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From: Jay Lee <drjayleenospam@cox.net
To: All
Subject: Re: Lab scripting language?
Date:Sat, July 05, 2008 10:48 PM


Give this a shot:

http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/

You may also want to think about Pooch in order to take advantage of
distributed computing and OS X's built in xgrid.


In article <1156517355.559959.55500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Rob Shaw" <rob@haptek.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the advice. It's certainly true that it's tough to beat the
> human eye in image processing. And as long as there are more
> people than jobs in the third world, robotics in general is not going
> to be cost-effective.
>
> But we're doing experiments that generate dynamical patterns,
> it's not a production thing, at least not yet. I'm the electronics
> guy, and help with the image processing software, we have a
> more-or-less working system.
>
> We ended up using lua as a scripting language, though still we mostly
> write in C, it's maybe just as convenient with today's fast compilers.
> If I were to do it again, I might look at something called "ipython",
> which supposedly has a very nice shell interface, logging facilities,
> etc. Lua doesn't have this, but it's so small that you can add stuff
> in easily, and the user group is very helpful. It's been a time sink,
> though, the jury is still out.
>
> A lot of people swear by Matlab, but we're more in the
> reinvent-the-wheel school of thought. One thing we've done is
> interface a wireless gaming joystick to our setup, so we can
> focus the scope, run the stage, change filters, take pictures,
> and run other equipment, all from one unit. The mac
> we use works well for us, it's a 1.4 GHz dual MMD, one of the last
> with a standard PCI slot. I believe the new ones exclusively use
> "PCI express", cards for that standard are vvvery expensive,
> if they exist at all. Maybe a linux box makes more sense if
> you're starting a setup these days, but we had the mac hardware.
>
> Of course, the real test if is we can do any good science.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> rob
>
> Simon Slavin wrote:
> > On 20/08/2006, madiba wrote in message
> > <1hkdgwu.6akl7ukn6b9cN%down@thekraal.com>:
> >
> > > Rob Shaw <rob@haptek.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > We are going to look through a microscope, do image processing,
> > > > and depending on what we see, move the stage, or adjust other
> > > > parameters, in real time.
> >
> > What you want is probably MatLab. It can do all the image-processing you
> > want, and it can be used to control an IO card which could make the
> > adjustments to the microscope you need. You will need at least one
> > electronics guy to hook up the microscope and one programmer to program
> > MatLab.
> >
> > > Sounds like you want to do automated cytology, as in PAP smears.
> > > Good luck! Been there, got the T-shirt. Technology can't keep up with
> > > falling market barriers and influx of cheap labor (or does your PPC +
> > > software + peripherals cover its costs for little more than the
> > > equivalent of a bowl of rice/day?)
> >
> > I think madiba is probably right for a large-scale project with many
> > performances of the same task. You'd need a real microscope+computer
> > setup to do this. It's cheaper to offshore it. However, if you can
> > develop your idea to the point where the hardware becomes cheaper, it
> > might be a player.
> >
> > Simon.
> > --
> > http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk


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