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From: "Paul L." <news@infinitereason.
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Subject: Re: Earliest example of a rollo
Date:Sat, July 05, 2008 10:37 PM


Thanks Mark

It would be interesting if you find them. To be useful for my purposes it
would have to be demonstrable that they were shown in a public forum. This
is the frustrating thing with the work I'm doing, you can know something was
the case and a patent has been unfairly granted but find you are unable to
prove it.

Paul

"Mark Schonewille" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:47155c1e$0$32263$dbd43001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> Hi Paul,
>
> I am sure that there are stacks of 15 to 20 years old, which show
> information about an object in a field while the mouse moves over that
> object. There must be examples of stacks using the mouseEnter and
> mouseWithin messages for this purpose.
>
> Two examples are a library stack and a contact database, which I
> started to build about 18 years ago. The library stack was
> available for download for a while.
>
> The two stacks had so many fields, that I deemed it necessary to
> add another field, which displayed information about the object
> that the mouse was hovering over. This had nothing to do with
> animation, though
>
> The library stack contained a possibility to include pictures and movies,
> but hovering over an object was not a way to access
> these pictures and movies.
>
> I am sure I have several old stacks, which show some kind of animation in
> response to aforementioned messages. If I find something that does what
> you are looking for, then I'll post another message here.
>
> Best,
>
> Mark
>
> I just can't imagine that such a patent would be enforceable.
>
> Paul L. wrote:
>> What is the earliest example of a rollover you can think of in a
>> Hypercard application?
>>
>> By rollover I mean:
>>
>> A list of database entries, where moving a highlight or a mouse cursor
>> over each entry results in some detail data relating to the entry being
>> shown elsewhere on the display.
>>
>> I want to know this because there are some software patents which appear
>> to me to be unfairly granted where I'm sure hypercard applications were
>> available which predated the patent claims.
>>
>> I would appreciate any help with this and in fact examples don't have to
>> be limited to hypercard, though I think hypercard apps are a good likely
>> source. If you can point to commercially or publicly available software
>> predating September 1990, fantastic. If you know of any such software
>> including video - even better. Thought I think hypercard only started to
>> include video/animation from 1992 (correct me if I'm wrong).
>>
>> If you know of any such applications I would very much like to hear from
>> you. I would be grateful if you could also send your reply to
>> news@infinitereason.com as well as this forum but if you would rather not
>> do so, I will be checking back here regularly.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
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