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From: Steve Hix <sehix@NOSPAMspeakeas
To: All
Subject: Re: Would you consider newer Ma
Date:Sat, July 05, 2008 10:34 PM


In article <g3qo0g02ebo@news1.newsguy.com>,
J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:43:14 -0400, Steve Hix wrote
> (in article <sehix-DD01EE.09431323062008@news.speakeasy.net>):
>
> > In article <485fa16c$0$7045$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> > Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Since newer Macs and their Mac OS X can do PC stuff with dual boot,
> >> virtual programs (e.g., VMware and VirtualBox), use other OS (e.g.,
> >> Linux), etc. Would you consider them PCs now?
> >
> > Two ways to look at the question:
> >
> > 1 - Yes, assuming that "PC" means "personal computer". The Apple// was
> > a personal computer.
> >
> > 2 - No, they are not Windows-based PCs. They're a lot more, and running
> > windows is just a small part of their capabilities.
> >
> > You can't just wipe the hard drive and install Win<whatever> off a
> > generic Windows install CD/DVD, can you?
>
> Yes you can, but why would you? You'd still need the OS X DVD so that you
> could get the drivers for the various Apple devices on the system, including
> but not limited to:

Which is *exactly* why I said what I did.

Oh yeah, how long has WinXP supported EFI-based systems? Or most
versions of Vista? There's no BIOS in place for it to work with.

> networking (both Ethernet and wireless)
> Bluetooth
> audio
> the iSight camera
> the special keys on the keyboard
> the buttons on the Mighty Mouse


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