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From: Todd Allcock <elecconnec@Americ
To: All
Subject: Re: Linux based OpenMoko - "emb
Date:Thu, July 31, 2008 12:19 AM


At 30 Jul 2008 19:49:43 -0400 Ezekiel wrote:

> > Actually, no, it's not. For starters, it's been in development since
> > LONG
> > before Jobs dazzled us all in January '07 with his keynote. (Obviously
> > the
>
> So they've been working on this /longer/ than the iPhone. It's amazing
that
> it took so long to create so little


Agreed, but i's a community effort- not a commercial project.

> > iPhone as in devlopment prior to that point, but the public knew nothing
> > about it, so no product was trying to "kill" it yet!)
>
> Tell that to the retards in COLA where every phone that happens to run
> linux is the next "iPhone killer"


It doesn't matter what fanboys on either side of the aisle think- it's not,
nor was it ever intended to be- an "iPhone killer", anymore than a Ford
Model T could be a Prius killer- OpenMoko predates the iPhone.

> - "Linux Spawns Yet Another iPhone Killer
> Deeda Pi Phone really is an [Linux-based] iPhone killer"
>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e3d65ff1896b9c9c?h
l=en
>
>
> - "Interview with the Creator of the Linux-based 'iPhone Killer'
> We have known about the FIC Neo1973, the world's first open source
> phone..."
>
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/9214f79c2a5995f7?h
l=en

I'll leave the relgious war to you guys.


> > Secondly, the Neo isn't supposed to be an actual final product- it's a
> > "test handset" for developers to try their creations on.
>
> Tell that to the folks at OpenMoko. They seem to think that it is a
viable
> commercial product.
>
> http://anotherugly.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/openmoko-based-consumer-e...
>
> "OpenMoko-based *CONSUMER* edition announced: Neo Freerunne
> Gizmodo reports that a CONSUMER edition of the Neo 1973 will be available
> this spring. It will be revealed on the CONSUMER Electronics Show in Vegas
> next week."

A $400 non-3G tri-band phone? Who but a Linux devotee, developer or
hobbyist will buy it?


> > Symbian, Windows Mobile and Apple's iPhone all have their own issues,
> > and they're designed and programmed by commercial professionals.
> > What's _their_ excuse?
>
> No excuse needed. Are you complaining because these devices aren't
> *perfect* because they work pretty damn well.


I'm not complaining at all- I'm a long time, happy Windows Mobile user, and
have used Symbian devices in the past. I'm just saying no platform is ug
free. Mobile phones users in glass houses... ;-)

> > OpenMoko was a interesting idea that will likely be abandoned depending
> > on
> > how "open" Android is, if only because Android will bring up-to-date
> > competitive hardware with it.
>
> Or it might be abandoned because of the crap reviews it's receiving and
> there might not be enough public interest to buy a over-hyped under
> performing phone. Perhaps the general public simply wants a phone that
> works well (as in the iPhone) rather than a clunker that comes with a
bunch
> of source coded. Few people give a rats ass if their cell phone is "open"
> or not.


True- but that doesn't mean there isn't room in the marketplace for it for
those that DO care.


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