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From: "ed" <news@no-atwistedweb-spam.
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Subject: Re: Let the extolling begin!
Date:Thu, July 31, 2008 12:19 AM


"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-4E7762.13275629072008@shawnews.vc.shawcable.net...
> In article
> <7d81e1f2-3721-4e4e-9f95-65b74b756451@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Dave Fritzinger <dfritzin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 29, 9:40 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>> > I mean, now the Dell has copied the Mac Mini.
>> >
>> > <http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-studio-
>> > hybrid?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&ref=homepg>
>> >
>> > ...only it's bigger...
>> >
>> > ...and weighs more...
>> >
>> > ...and wireless is only an option...
>> >
>> > But now:
>> >
>> > Not being able to expand the device internally will be fine!
>> >
>> > Not having an internal modem will only be sensible!
>> >
>> > Not having Bluetooth...
>> >
>> > ...at all...
>> >
>> > ...hmmm. How *will* the Wintrolls spin that one?
>> >
>> And, it comes in colors!!!
>>
>> To be fair, it is a bit cheaper than a Mini, and offers more ports
>> (HDMI), and the option of Blu Ray.
>
> Well...
>
> Let's look at that "bit cheaper" bit:
>
> Sure, you start off at $499, which is $100 less than the Mac Mini starts
> at.
>
> But if you want, Vista Home Premium (which you do), that's $30: $529
>
> And Dell's website tells you that you need at least 1GB...
> ...configured as two DIMMs...
> ...but the only two DIMM configuration they'll sell you...
> ...is 2GB, and that's another $50: $579
>
> And you want wireless networking? That's another $70: $649
>
> And you want Bluetooth? Well, sorry. You can't have it.
> But you can have Dell's wireless keyboard and mouse for $25: $674
>
>
>
> Now to be fair, you should upgrade the Mac Mini to 160GB
> to match the Dell and that's $100: $699
>
> And you should add at wireless keyboard and mouse,
> and that's $129: $828.
>
> So the Mac Mini is $54 more (about 8%),


as pointed out, it's $154, and you didn't add the following for the mac mini
to bring it up to the same spec as the dell:
- increase ram to 2GB- another $100.
- the mac has the older gma 950 graphics. try upgrading that.
- the dell has a dvd burner, i.e. 'superdrive'. can't get that on the cheap
mac either.
so the price difference is acually much higher. but, to be fair, the mac
mini has a little better processor.

to do a better comparison, we should start with a processor w/ the same fsb
(can't actually specify the same processor on these two systems) and optical
drive, so i'd do it w/ the higher priced mini and the dell with the 2ghz
t5750.

so the dell t5750: base price $874
processor: Intel¨ CoreT 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache) upgrade
to Intel¨ CoreT 2 Duo T8100 (2.1GHz/800Mhz FSB/3MB cache) +125
memory : 3gb
hard drive: 320gb
optical : dual layer cd/dvd burner
video : intel x3100
os: : vista home premium
monitor : Dell E207WFP 20 inch Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor
wireless kb & mouse
wireless networking: Built-in Dell 1505 Wireless-N Networking + $70
$1069 total

mac mini superdrive: base price $799
processor : core 2 duo, 2ghz, 667mhz fsb, 4mb cache
memory : 2gb +$100 (can't specify 3gb)
hard drive: 160gb +$50 (can't specify 320)
video : gma 9500
wireless kb & mouse: +$129
$1078 total

so, for basically the same price, you get a dell that has:
1- a superior processor
2- 1gb more memory
3- better video
4- 2x (160gb) hard drive space
5- a 20" lcd

and 1 year in home warranty, but the warranties are so out of bed it's hard
to compare, so i didn't try. the dell also has ms works 9, but given all
the broo-ha-ha mac advocates like to make about ilife, we won't even add
that.

> or about $1.50 per month more
> over a three year life span, but then you get actual Bluetooth and
> software, where as the Dell Studio Hybrid gives you nothing in either of
> those areas.

bluetooth, yeah, sure, but you can add that for $10-$30. you can NOT add
all the stuff the mac is missing for anywhere near that. ilife, the value
of that is going to vary by user, but apple prices it at $79- again, the
stuff the mac doesn't include makes up for that. :P


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