On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:49:43 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message > news:Yd4kk.4710$Uw.325@fe107.usenetserver.com... >> At 30 Jul 2008 11:12:26 -0400 Moshe Goldfarb. wrote: >>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:22:22 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: >> >>> > And, unfortunately, for me it is a good example of why I'm not a >>> > huge >> fan of >>> > the open source movement. Very often, this is what you get: a NEO >> instead of >>> > an iPhone. >>> > </quote> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> And this is supposed to be the iPhone killer? >> >> >> Actually, no, it's not. For starters, it's been in development since >> LONG >> before Jobs dazzled us all in January '07 with his keynote. (Obviously >> the > > So they've been working on this /longer/ than the iPhone. It's amazing > that it took so long to create so little > > >> iPhone as in devlopment prior to that point, but the public knew >> nothing about it, so no product was trying to "kill" it yet!) > > Tell that to the retards in COLA where every phone that happens to run > linux is the next "iPhone killer"
The retards in COLA? That would be you.
> > > - "Linux Spawns Yet Another iPhone Killer Deeda Pi Phone really is an > [Linux-based] iPhone killer" > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ e3d65ff1896b9c9c?hl=en > > > - "Interview with the Creator of the Linux-based 'iPhone Killer' We have > known about the FIC Neo1973, the world's first open source phone..." > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/ msg/9214f79c2a5995f7?hl=en > > > >> Secondly, the Neo isn't supposed to be an actual final product- it's a >> "test handset" for developers to try their creations on. > > Tell that to the folks at OpenMoko. They seem to think that it is a > viable commercial product.
<http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner> The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only, it is not ready for the general consumer yet.
> > http://anotherugly.wordpress.com/2008/01/04/openmoko-based-consumer-e... > > "OpenMoko-based *CONSUMER* edition announced: Neo Freerunne Gizmodo > reports that a CONSUMER edition of the Neo 1973 will be available this > spring. It will be revealed on the CONSUMER Electronics Show in Vegas > next week."
anotherugly.wordpress.com speaks for OpenMoko?
<http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner> The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only, it is not ready for the general consumer yet.
> > >>> Please stop it, your killing me! >>> My sides are splitting reading about this piker.... >>> >>> Only in the Linux world can they design a phone that can't reliably >>> make phone calls. >>> >>> Amazing... >> >> >> Only in the Linux world can a bunch of complete well-meaning amateurs >> actually design a phone from ground up. > > Good for them for doing so. But anyone who thinks that this is going to > be some sort of "iPhone killer" is an idiot.
How do you know? It has been released for the consumer market yet.
> > >> Symbian, Windows Mobile and Apple's iPhone all have their own issues, >> and they're designed and programmed by commercial professionals. What's >> _their_ excuse? > > No excuse needed. Are you complaining because these devices aren't > *perfect* because they work pretty damn well. > > >> OpenMoko was a interesting idea that will likely be abandoned depending >> on >> how "open" Android is, if only because Android will bring up-to-date >> competitive hardware with it. > > Or it might be abandoned because of the crap reviews it's receiving and > there might not be enough public interest to buy a over-hyped under > performing phone. Perhaps the general public simply wants a phone that > works well (as in the iPhone) rather than a clunker that comes with a > bunch of source coded. Few people give a rats ass if their cell phone is > "open" or not.
Developers might. And that's the target audience right now.
