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From: Kib Holt <kib@cox.net>
To: All
Subject: Re: It is official Apple will b
Date:Sat, July 05, 2008 11:25 PM


Didn't Bill Gates say that Apple was the way computers should be built. I
think he said OS X was a real innovation. Other os's , and their minor
changes, were just window dressing.


On 6/12/05 5:01 PM, "Hugh Gibbons" <party@my.house.com> wrote:

> In article <BECBED71.46D04%dhalfpenny@blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Daren Halfpenny <dhalfpenny@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Also, I can't see the new Macs, whether they run on Intel or not, running
>> Windows straight out of the box - I may be wrong but what I can be certain
>> of is that Apple will not allow X to run on a PC unless a PC-optimised
>> version is marketed separately - the new Macs will be sufficiently different
>> in the proprietary hardware to ensure that X cannot be transferred directly
>> from an Intel Mac to an Intel PC.
>
> I have to disagree. I think this move signifies Apple's move away from
> seeing itself as a computer company to seeing itself as a software
> company. I think they may intend to go head-to-head against Windows.
> I think everybody in the Mac world and many in the PC world see MacOS X
> as a superior product to Windows of whatever version. But Microsoft
> continues to clean Apple's clock year after year because their system
> runs on the cheap, ubiquitous hardware as well as high-end hardware and
> supports 90% of users' old software (almost 100% if they're upgrading
> from a previous Windows version). If MacOS X is translated to run on
> STANDARD PC HARDWARE, half the barrier to crossover is removed. This
> is certainly a risky move, because there's no guarantee that the main
> movement won't be the other way and spell Apple's doom.
>
> But Apple has to keep some things clearly in mind in order to avoid that
> doom.
> 1. OS X must remain clearly superior in the user interface.
> 2. OS X must make at least as efficient if not more efficient use
> of hardware.
> 3. Apple/Intel machines must emulate G4 and G5 machines flawlessly
> and blazing fast.
>
> If there's a discernible loss of speed, the new Apple machines will seem
> like junk to Mac users. I think the chances of doing this are not good.
> If they fail in this, we'll be forced to do a complete software
> migration, almost as bad as the conversion to Windows. And if it's as
> bad as all that, why not go all the way?
>
> If Apple wants to stand a chance of GAINING significant market share,
> they must also:
> 4. Make OS X work on standard PC hardware.
> and
> 5. Make OS X able to run most Windows software as-is.
>
> If they do all of the above, this is a terrific move for Apple and my
> advice would be BUY BUY BUY. If they stumble on any of the 1st three,
> you won't be able to sell Apple stock fast enough.
>
>> What bothers me more than anything though, is that we're going to see the
>> poxy "intel Inside" logo plastered all over these machines and at the end of
>> their ads which infuriates me enough already when I hear it...
>
> Just because they have Intel inside doesn't mean they won't also have AMD
> in other versions. So they might want to de-emphasize the Intel chips.
>
> Me, I just want to see a definitive end to the PENTIUM brand. I still
> have flashbacks of the original Pentiums with floating-point processor
> problems every time I see it. Why oh why didn't Intel put that behind
> them by giving the P2 a new name instead of recycling Pentium?
>
> ==> ALL COMMENTS IMO <==


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