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Subject: EvangeList Digest V1 #1115
Date:Sun, March 08, 1998 05:25 PM



EvangeList Digest Friday, March 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 1115



In this issue:

PR- Mac4Sale.com Finishes 1st Month with a Bang
Tidbit - Forbes Makes Some Interesting Mac vs. Wintel Market Comparisons
?? - Looking for a Mac-Friendly University
?? - Text Scanning/Reading Software for Vision-Impaired Person
Tidbit - March at Insanely Great Mac
$$ - SoftWindows 95 5.0 and RealPC
$$ -- Mac the Scope Audio Input Calibrator and Buffer
Tidbit - The RhapsodyOS Report #5
Followup - Summary of Replies, Surface Area Calculation

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:35 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: PR- Mac4Sale.com Finishes 1st Month with a Bang

This announcement is from:

Carl Powell, <carl@mac4sale.com>

Mac4sale.com <http://www.mac4sale.com/> has finished its first month
online and it is a HUGE Success! Judging from the popularity and
activity, Mac4Sale was definitely a concept whose time had come!

Take a look at these statistics for this first month:

o Over 180 different Sellers have listed items
o Over 450 items now listed online
o Over $180,000 (at selling price) listed in first month.
o Over 31,500 page hits in the first month!! (ACTUAL PAGES, NOT
GRAPHICS!)
o Over 50,000 total hits in the first month!
o A new Want2Buy section added mid-month w/over 35 new listings o
THOUSANDS of $$$ in items already sold!!!
o Every Item was Listed and/or sold for FREE!

Remember, Mac4Sale.com is ALL-MAC and is run with Filemaker Pro 4.0 on a
Mac!

If you have items you'd like to sell or buy, be sure and visit the site
and list your item. The more the merrier! And, since we're going so
strong, we'll be keeping the listings FREE for the month of March as well!

NOTICE: If you or your company would like a great place to advertise,
there are great spots available for advertising on Mac4Sale.com! See the
site for details:

<http://www.mac4sale.com/>

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:32 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: Tidbit - Forbes Makes Some Interesting Mac vs. Wintel Market Comparisons

This tidbit is from:

Steve Hilditch, <steve@hilditch-architect.com>

Robert Roblin, Adobe's Senior V.P. of Marketing, offers some interesting
comments in a recent Forbes online article, located at:

<http://www.forbes.com/tool/html/98/feb/0226/side1.htm>

He comments that "over 84% of Mac business products sold over the last 6
months got sold through catalogs or mail order; but for Windows business
software, only about 15%". In explaining further differences between
platforms and markets, he also notes that "anytime you install something
new on the Windows platform you risk spending the next five or six hours
trying to figure out what happened".

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:36 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: ?? - Looking for a Mac-Friendly University

This request is from:

Daniel J. Fox, <djfox@bigfoot.com>

I will be entering University in September, and I am looking for a school
which is Mac-Friendly. I read the report on Mac in Higher Ed at
MacCentral <http://www.maccentral.com> but there was little mention of
Canadian schools, and none in Ontario (except Waterloo, and they are
swinging the other way). I will probably be a student of computer
science, but I have been unable to find a school which teaches things
like C++ for Mac, and the Mac Toolbox (I think that's what it's called).

If you are a student, faculty, recent alumni, staff, (or whatever) at any
Canadian University, and you have any info that would help me to make a
decision, I would very much appreciate hearing from you. (I am also
considering the U of Tennessee <@> Knoxville, Auburn and U of Texas <@>
Austin, so any info on these will also be helpful)

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:52 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: ?? - Text Scanning/Reading Software for Vision-Impaired Person

This request is from:

Phillip Garrison, <pgarrison@pobox.com>

My landlady has impaired vision - she can read large print, but not the
normal print found in books, etc. She has been using a Mac for years,
using large fonts, and Outspoken and other utilities to read menus and
documents out loud.

However, reading books, correspondence, etc. is a real pain and very
slow, even with various magnifying devices.

She recently saw an integrated package on Windows that would: 1) read a
page or pages from a scanner and insert them directly into a document 2)
read the contents out loud while (this is the interesting part) scrolling
the magnified text currently being read across the screen, so she could
follow along while listening to the voice reading the text.

She would really like to have this capability - she found the combined
speech generation/scrolling much more engaging and easy to focus on.

She really doesn't want to spend the $3000 for the Windows
hardware/software system, and also really likes her Mac, and doesn't want
to switch to Windows.

Does anyone know of a software package that either does both steps 1 and
2 above, or at least does 2?

If we can find software that just does the reading/scrolling, I'm sure we
can hook up Visioneer or other scanning/OCR software to pull content from
her scanner and insert it into documents. If anyone has comments on which
scanning/OCR software to use, I'm interested in that as well. The ability
to insert multiple pages into single document is a big plus (I know
Visioneer does this).

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:38 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: Tidbit - March at Insanely Great Mac

This tidbit is from:

Michael D Flaminio, <flaminio@insanely-great.com>

March is coming in like a lion at Insanely Great Mac, and we want to let
you and your readers know what we're up to.

We've got two new contests for March, one of which we're really excited
about. Throughout March, we'll be giving away four copies of St. Clair
Software's Default Folder. To kick off our Default Folder contest, I've
posted a review of Default Folder 2.8. I take an in depth look at the
features of Default Folder complete with screen shots.

In our second contest for March we'll give away a game of your choice. We
plan to make this contest an on going feature and hope to expand it in
the future. However for March we're just giving away one Mac game. People
who enter, can choose between 20 of the hottest Mac games on the shelves.

To enter the game giveaway, just visit our contests page and fill out the
entry form. In the beginning of April, we'll draw a name at random to win
the game of their choice!

Finally, Insanely Great Mac is continuing to cover recent Newton events.
We're looking for input in our latest poll which is about Apple's most
recent decision. Our latest poll asks what do you think of Apple's
decision to end Newton Development?

Our Contests Page:
<http://www.insanely-great.com/contests.html>

Default Folder Review:
<http://www.insanely-great.com/reviews/defaultfolder.html>

Voting Booth
<http://www.insanely-great.com/vote.html>

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:39 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: $$ - SoftWindows 95 5.0 and RealPC

This announcement is from:

<leigh.dworkin@isinc.i>

Insignia Solutions is extending its Macworld special pricing to all
Evangelistas, just in case you didn't stop by our booth in San Francisco.

You can purchase SoftWindows 95 version 5.0 for $149 and RealPC for $49
until March 31, 1998 - a $50 savings on SoftWindows 95 and a $30 savings
on RealPC.

SoftWindows 95 version 5.0 for Power Mac:

- - Runs all of your Windows 95 business applications and games
- - Includes Windows 95 pre-installed
- - Performance is up to 25% faster than version 4.0
- - Comes with full multimedia support
- - Includes utilities for easy access to the Internet

RealPC:

- - Runs PC games shockingly fast
- - Includes MS-DOS 6.22 pre-installed and ready to run
- - Includes 15 3D action games - Comes with full multimedia support
- - Includes Sound Blaster Pro and Sound Blaster 16 compatibility
- - Provides joystick support
- - Comes Windows-ready
- - just add your own version of Windows

Call 1-800-848-7677 to place your order and remember to mention the
special code "Evangelist".

For more information check out <http://www.insignia.com> and while you
are there, check out our latest 3Dfx support for RealPC and SoftWindows
95 5.0, available as a free download from the Insignia web site.

Offer valid in the US and Canada only.

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:41 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: $$ -- Mac the Scope Audio Input Calibrator and Buffer

This special offer is from:

<swmark@channld.com>

On March 7, 1998, Channel D will begin shipping the Mac the Scope
Calibrator and Buffer Amplifier Accessory.

This unit replaces our previous Buffer Amplifier Accessory, and now
includes a 1 kHz calibrator output source, suitable for calibrating the
Macintosh line-level sound input port sensitivity, in conjunction with
Mac the Scope's Automatic Calibration feature.

With release of the new Buffer Amplifier Accessory, Channel D will begin
shipping Mac the Scope 1.2.1, which is modified to support the new
Calibrator output. Mac the Scope 1.2.1 also includes performance
enhancements, including better cursor readout when automatic trace
scaling is enabled. The upgrade also permits input calibration with
Macintosh input gain settings other than the lowest setting, when using
automatic calibration.

- - Mac the Scope turns a Macintosh with sound input/
- - output capability into a full-featured
- - audio-frequency spectrum analyzer, oscilloscope, and
- - signal source. Mac the Scope includes a two-channel,
- - mini-plug to dual RCA-plug interface cable.

- - Mac the Scope is compatible with 68k Macs having
- - sound input capability and a math coprocessor,
- - in addition to all PowerPC machines. Only 4 MB
- - free RAM needed; System 7.5.3 or later is required
The Calibrator and Buffer Amplifier Accessory is intended for Mac the
Scope users needing to probe high-impedance, circuit-board-level signals.
However, the Calibrator feature also can be used by other Mac the Scope
users, to calibrate audio signal input levels.

Mac the Scope retails for $299. The Calibrator and Buffer Amplifier
Accessory retails for $139 ($99 for Mac the Scope users)

Evangelistas can obtain special pricing, good until March 20, 1998, by
ordering directly from Channel D:

> Mac the Scope 1.2.1 Package, including Calibrator and Buffer Amplifier
Accessory:

Part Number M201BC
Retail $398

>> Evangelista Price $299

> Mac the Scope 1.2.1:

Part Number M201MS
Retail $299

>> Evangelista Price $259

> Calibrator and Buffer Amplifier Accessory
> (discount only for previous users of Mac the Scope):

Part Number M100BC
Retail $99

>> Evangelista Price $79


IMPORTANT:
This special offer will not be mentioned elsewhere. Please provide order
code AE3098 to obtain the discount.

For more information, please visit <http://www.channld.com/software.html>.

Specifications for the Calibrator and Buffer Amplifier Accessory are
available via links from <http://www.channld.com/software.html>>, or
directly from <http://www.channld.com/buf2spc.html>.

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:49 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: Tidbit - The RhapsodyOS Report #5

This tidbit is from:

Jason Caron, <jason@rhapsodyos.com>

I'm writing to inform you that I have posted #5 of The RhapsodyOS Report.
(March 1 1998)

You can find it at:

<http://www.RhapsodyOS.com/report/index.html>

The RhapsodyOS Report is a free weekly summary of Apple Computer's
Rhapsody Operating System news, software releases, rumors, Internet
resources and related topics compiled by Raven Zachary with support
provided by RhapsodyOS.com.

Thanks for your time,

Jason Caron
<jason@rhapsodyos.com>
<http://www.RhapsodyOS.com>

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:10:42 -0000
From: EvangeList <evangelist@apple.com>
Subject: Followup - Summary of Replies, Surface Area Calculation

This follow-up message is from:

Steffen Servay stefservay@aol.com


In the Evangelist Digest #1076, I asked if anybody knew of a way to
easily measure the surface area of items. Almost immediately the replies
started coming in. I started to thank everyone one by one as the messages
came in but soon fell behind due to the sheer number of responses. So for
those I haven't thanked personally for taking the time and interest to
answer me, please take this as my very grateful thank you.

This was an excellent opportunity to witness the power, intelligence and
scope of helpful and dedicated Mac users. In addition to the precise
replies, I received quotes, poems and histories from a worldwide cross
section of doctors, engineers, regular folks, students, programmers, even
Steve Wozniak ! This really lightened up the boring subject of surface
area calculation.

What follows below is a resume of solutions I received, in order of
popularity (the most recommended at the top). I have not tried any yet,
as I wanted to get my summary back to you ASAP since many asked me for
the list of solutions received. I apologise for the length of this
posting (9 pages) but I couldn't see how to edit further down from the
original 75 pages !!!

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FINDING THE SURFACE AREA OF ITEMS

- ----------------------------------------------

NIH-Image, a fully scriptable public-domain image-analysis program, will
do what you want. It uses photoshop plug-ins or if you have a Mac with
video-in, it will read images from a video camera.

NIH-Image can be used to measure area, mean, centroid, perimeter, etc. of
user defined regions of interest. It also performs automated particle
analysis and provides tools for measuring path lengths and angles.
Spatial calibration is supported to provide real world area and length
measurements. Density calibration can be done against radiation or
optical density standards using user specified units. Results can be
printed, exported to text files, or copied to the Clipboard.

You can get a copy plus manual in MsWord format
<http://rsb.info.nih.gov/nih-image/>

After scanning the item, analyze the area of the resultant image using
NIH Image (freeware). Macros that come with NIH Image facilitate this.
This gives you the cross-section of the scanned piece. The data can be
saved to a text file and imported into a database or spreadsheet for the
remaining calculations. If the piece is symmetrical or nearly so, the
problem then reduces to calculating the surface of revolution by
segmenting the cross-section and summing (integrating) the contributions
of each segment to the surface. If the piece is irregular, approximations
for each type of item could probably be developed. The idea would be to
use calculus to compute the surface of a particular type of piece from
various measurements and then use that calculation with some scaling
factor that would be applied to a similar piece the next time an estimate
is needed.

- ----------------------------------------------

Use the Mac CAD Program called Mini CAD 7.0 (www.deihlgraphsoft.com).
$595 Mail order. It is very easy to import scanned pict images and then
trace the shape at full scale in Mini CAD. Once you have the shape
getting its area is a simple operation. You can subtract areas by
clipping the polygon to remove holes etc. It might automatically send the
surface area to Filemaker Pro using Apple Events...

Enclosed areas are automatically calculated. It has an excellent Object
info palette that instantly calculates the 2D surface area of just about
any 2D object. MiniCAD7 has built-in spreadsheet and database capability
that are compatible with Excel and FileMaker. It is also extensively
configurable and programmable so that it could be setup to support this
type of function minimizing the complexity. The package could be very
useful for product design as well.

It's a very easy application to learn as CAD apps go though. They have a
2D version called BluePrint, which may be the cheapest option.

- ----------------------------------------------

The drawing program 'Canvas' had this feature in version 3. You could get
it to tell you the surface area of a drawn object, and would even take
into account the scale of the drawing.

I suspect it would not work on a scanned object, so you might have to
trace the scan that you took, but that shouldn't be to much trouble.

I think last week I saw an Evangelist note about free trial downloads of
the new Canvas 5 from Denebas web site.

Canvas 5 will calculate the area and perimeter of any object, so what you
can do is scan in the object, autotrace the resulting bitmap to turn it
into object(s), and get info about them. The autotrace will pick up holes
in the middle, but the area calculator doesn't seem to work right with
groups of objects, so you need to ungroup the autotrace and pick up the
info on the object as a whole and each of the holes separately, then
subtract.

- -----------------------------------------

MacMath Pro from Diamond Software may be what you need. It's $20
shareware.

80 Grove Park Road South
Memphis TN 38117

It offers: Scientific Calculator, Statistics, Logic
Operators,Trigonometry, Exponential, Logarithmic, Conversions, Unit
Conversions, Perimeter, Circumference, Pythagorean Theorem, Rectangle
Area, Rhombus Area, Trapezoid Area, Circle Area, Circle Segment Area,
Circle Segment w/base Area, Annulus Area, Triangle Area, Polygon Area,
Prism Area, Sphere Area, Sphere Section Area, Sphere Segment Area, Cone
Area, Cylinder Area, Pyramid Area, Prism Volume, Sphere Volume, Sphere
Section Volume, Sphere Segment Volume, Sphere Sector Volume, Cone Volume,
Cylinder Volume, Pyramid Volume, Amortization, Annuities, Simple
Interest, Discount, Percent of Change.

- ------------------------------------------------

What you are looking for is image processing software. Instead of a
scanner, one typically uses a CCD camera on a light table (like a back
lit table for viewing slides) to acquire images. National Instruments
(512) 795-8248 has everything you will need to make this work (and/or can
tell you where to get it) from the interface board to the software.

You can implement this project yourself, or have an integrator do it for
you. Nat. Inst. can help you there too. Their equipment is the best and
is priced accordingly, but as far as I know, they are one of the few
people who support the Mac.

Keyence Corp, (510) 225-1550, makes a comparatively cheap vision system
(approx. $5-7k) that can measure part area as well. It is a standalone
system and is very reliable. We have been using it for a year with no
failures.

- ------------------------------------------------

Area Properties 3.2. This program is a bit crude, but it works. The
program can be found at the usual shareware sites.

It will calculate and measure the following properties of any object you
load from a PICT or PNT document; (Objects can also be imported from the
Clipboard.)

CROSS SECTIONAL AREA, TOTAL SURFACE AREA, TOTAL PERIMETER, MOMENT OF
INERTIA about the centroidal axis & any axis, RADIUS OF GYRATION, VOLUME,
WEIGHT, MEASURE HEIGHT & WIDTH, PROVIDES RULER TO OBTAIN LENGTH
MEASUREMENTS, WILL COLLAPSE OBJECT ON BOTH X & Y AXIS, COUNTS TOTAL
OBJECT PIXELS The object itself and the UNITS, DEPTH, SCALE & MATERIAL
are user inputs. They can be made the defaults with the Preferences...
menu item. SCALE is defined as actual object size divided by screen size.
(If actual object width is 12 inches and screen image width of object is
1 inch, the SCALE = 12.) The results can be saved to disk as a PIC file.

coded by: William Weiss
2500 Ptarmigan Dr.#1
Walnut Creek, CA. 94595
USA
email address: <WWeissTuna@AOL.com>

Comments and suggestions are always welcomed. If you use this code a lot,
please make a donation to your favorite charity, Thanks

<http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/cgi-bin/NewSearch?key=Area+Properties>

- ------------------------------------------------

Ashlar Vellum 3d. (see their web site www.ashlar.com)

This software I use is a high-end CAD package capable of 2D or 3D
drawings. A cost effective alternative is this software "Drawing Board"
which is 2D only (this is also available from Ashlar. It should also
determine surface area per your requirements as you stated.

These software packages are available in both Macintosh and Windoze.

- ------------------------------------------------

Check out www.immerse.com. It's the web site of Immersion Corporation.
They make 3D digitizing tools that can be used to digitize 3-D objects.
You may be able to use their software to calculate total surface area
after digitizing an object and creating a mesh.

- ------------------------------------------------

Our Touch-3D automatically calculates the 3D surface area of of any
number of selected 3D polygons.

Touch-3D:
3D modelling and unfolding.
Concept design, quick prototyping, mock-ups, scale and architectural
models, industrial design, etc.

MCnurbs Creator:
Free form 3D spline based modelling add-on for MiniCad 7.0 Creates smooth
looking 3D surfaces, extrusions and sweeps.

Lundstrom Design:
Ekhagsvagen 7, 104 05 Stockholm, Sweden T:int+46 (0)8 - 154663, 154777,
F: int+46 (0)8 - 158285 E-mail: <ludesign@algonet.se>,
<http://www.algonet.se/~ludesign>

- ------------------------------------------------

<http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw>

This calculates things besides areas, and it's really only accurate for
flat surfaces, but it'll get you started. I think the price is right. You
may have a problem with scale--if your parts are small the results won't
be as accurate because the resolution isn't so good.. You can scale your
scans, then figure the area and reduce the calculated area by square of
the scale factor if you need to.

- ------------------------------------------------

If the objects are solid, you might consider a variation of Archimedes'
"Eureka!" solution.

Drop the object into a known volume of water and observe the volume
displaced by the object. Use a little trig to calculate the surface area
of a sphere whose volume is that of the amount of displaced water. I
imagine a calculated field in Filemaker could handle it.

- -------------------------------------------------

Perhaps a non-computer approach may fit to a reasonable degree of
accuracy. My suggestion is more like a laboratory procedure, and it will
require an accurate and precise laboratory scale (in a steady and
draft-free environment), a heating plate, a thermometer and a tank of
light motor oil. Weigh one of the objects to be plated and note the
weight. Dip the object in the oil that has been heated to a temperature
of your choosing. ( The point is to always use the _same_ temperature!)
Allow all loose drippage to drain (perhaps based on a standard time of
drainage), and then weigh the object again.

The difference in the two weights will represent the oil that remains on
the object. This will be proportional to the surface area, unless the
object is highly porous and acts more like a sponge.

Once you have some experience with different shapes, you should be able
to make a correlation between the oil weight and the surface area.

I suggested oil rather than water, because water evaporates, and it does
not wet all metals well.

This would take a little development, but I bet that with practice, you
will be able to get results within five percent accuracy.

- -------------------------------

The pieces that you manufacture are 3D CAD Files in a program like
MicroStation, that can then be automatically linked into a FileMaker Pro
Database. You may want to call Bentley Systems, Inc. (1-800-BENTLEY) to
see if they have some sort of solution for you.

- -------------------------------------------------

I recall (from when I was a botanist) that the guys in the plant
physiology lab had a small piece of apparatus into which you could feed
leaves and the surface area was calculated. It only worked for flat items
(the leaves went in between two rollers then the surface area was
measured with a digital output). It would not work for 3D items.

Contact the plant physiology section of the Botany Department of your
local university. They may know of a local supplier of them for you to
check out if this would be suitable or what other of this type of gear
they sell.

- ------------------------------------------------

Surveying books have formulas to determine the area of any irregularly
shaped object. It uses the coordinates of each of the vertices of the
surface to determine the area.

All it would require would be for the object to be placed on a grid, the
operator would record the coordinates of each of the vertices into FM,
and FM would calculate the area.

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