rusty: Bob - grab me a beer while your up! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Thats kinda what I was doing but it was putting on socks and getting a coke. rusty: Pants are REQUIRED for this chat :) ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I did that, would bother me even though perhaps nobody would know. My wife may stop in in a sec. Hey Chris. SpiderChris: hello Bob ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I think the mail server solved a lot of my problems? Seems more polite anyway. I installed it yesterday and its been up ever since. rusty: It works around a nasty bug in the OS rusty: at least thats our opinion SpiderChris: good deal. SpiderChris: i'd call it nasty.... ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I kinda observed something happening when it would run through a routine while server was doing stuff. It appeared to be the problem but it is so hard to tell from simple observations sometimes. rusty: A similar fix is already in the BBS and Web server Spider Jose: Hi Bob! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I lost my entire bbs mail folder the other day. Don't know where or why and because I disabled so much of my stuff my backup was dated. I am adding a 3.2 gig drive just to keep a mirror on. Hey Jose! rusty: ouch! Did you check the BBS logs? ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I still can't get my tape drive to work reliably with the external bus. Retro had me turn off SCSI manager when it runs and it works but it is so slow that I only use it while I am here. That won't do. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: No I haven't went thru the logs. My guess is that I threw it away while I was cleaning up. Holding the shift key down can bite you sometimes but I am really not sure. Was only a few days but the users that had updated there websites and the lost mail is always upsetting to me. rusty: losing mail is the worst ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Yep but Cheryn here was kind enough to agree that a 3.2 gig drive wasn't as bad as any other alternative we could come up with. I plan to keep my base files (UD's) on CDR and then just store the changes live on the balance. The Telefinder files we would keep a frequent backup using mail server and applescript rusty: :) SpiderChris: Hello Cheryn rusty: Early Father's Day for you? ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: hi chris, rusty and jose. long time no see. as you can tell bob's not in his office. we're on vacation. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: SpiderChris: Ah, cool! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: not early father's day. just a measure to keep him from driving me crazy! Spider Jose: and Bob's working? Shame on Bob! =) rusty: I think the other Bob must be playing tennis today :) rusty: No telling where everyone else is. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Actually it will be kind of a late birthday. 43 yesterday. SpiderChris: ah, happy b-day! rusty: congrats! Spider Jose: Happy Birthday, Bob! rusty: Im closing in on that territory :( rusty: couple years before 40 yet rusty: YIKES! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Thanks. Got a bit of sun. We spent 3 days at Quachita. 40 isn't so bad things just seem to speed up. Seems like all I ever do now is change out light bulbs and trim my toe nails. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: What is really bad though is when you realize you still can't grow a beard and the hair that does come in is gray. SpiderChris: hehe rusty: These latest vers should slow the graying down some. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: The program doesn't cause that much gray. The 16 year old daughter could be part of it though. rusty: The web bbs and email have been up since last friday - non stop! rusty: It was starnge to hve a long weekend, and not need to stop in a restart the computers rusty: We've fianlly tamed the Open Transport Beast! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: This latest group seems better. I think turning off everything helped. The only things I have added back is the powerkey pro iext. and the cd's are back online. I think that beta helped a bunch as well. Spider Jose: Hi Mikael! SpiderChris: hello mikael ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: The OT that is. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I hear that there is a OS 8 beta out? rusty: I dont think its public yet. rusty: We've seen a few releases of 8 ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Saw it in the develpers news. I am hoping they continue to update ot a bit more. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I have been thinking about the Web Ramp a bit. I would add this and VICOMs software both? That would enable me to have dialup ppp connects and multilinked PPP via phonelines. Mikael Fredriksson: ok SpiderChris: welcome back bob... ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Short nap. rusty: Mike = "Waymac" has some strange entries for you web site. Mikael Fredriksson: hmmm what kind? Mikael Fredriksson: they have an old info tried to update ... rusty: I haven't quite figured it out yet. Brad''s latest info letter listed about 15 or so TF sites in his registry, but when I search for "TeleFinder" they list only 7. rusty: + he hasn't posted our other sites here yet. rusty: He did post a bunch of personal sites from a different Swedish web site Mikael Fredriksson: I don«t know when they update their host database rusty: It supposed to work by filling in a form online rusty: Or you can send him tab delmited info to input ( format unknown ) rusty: I wish Macconnect would post their stuff! rusty: we need to get a good TeleFinder site list of our own going. rusty: make it a little simpler than the current "BBS list" ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I noticed that I need to update mine a bit the other day. My IP address has changed since it was put up. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I should have used www.headgap.com instead of the IP. rusty: It's good to list all Personal Web Sites as well -- their looking to count "publishers" not just individual computers onlne. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: That would help with your chances of getting picked up in a search as well. Good idea. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Some of the people that work with my wife use our email. She runs www.riveroaks.com on a local ISP but some of the agents use headgap for mail and I see some of the page links from her site coming up in searches. rusty: my only interest is seeing higher TeleFinder Server counts :) Mikael Fredriksson: Will any of you be at Mac World in Boston? my boss gave a OK on a trip there today! SpiderChris: Not quite sure Mikael, we usually decide at the last minute ;-) ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I would like to. Planned a family vacation in Boston so I could attend last year and convinced my Boss and Cheryn's boss to pay for the air fare. Just couldn't swing the timing though. Maybe next year. SpiderChris: Boston is a fun city..... the SF show is probably a bit better because its more convenient, not as hot, but early January is a bad time of year, so soon after the holidays.... ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: I really enjoy SF. Would like to go back but January is probably not the time I would pick either. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: They need to do something in Anaheim sometime. SpiderChris: that would be cool! :-) Mikael Fredriksson: And I thay usually go to Boston and then to Phoenix to get the heat up a bit more ;-) ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Dallas would be more affordable for us though. We could drive and visit family. rusty: breanna SpiderChris: Austin would be a great city for a macworld too.... from my experience visitin the city. ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Hi Breanna! rusty: sean ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Hey Sean! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Whose that with Jose? Mom and the baby? rusty: say hi ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Hi! rusty: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mm <-- sean ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Its a good start sean you just need a really good spell checker rusty: :0 rusty: have to talk to chris about that SpiderChris: hehe rusty: name it rusty: kid talk ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: A built in for Geektalk. WOuld need grammar functions Cheryn says. rusty: mayeb use voice to text SpiderChris: i could use a grammar checker..... rusty: time to wrap up I think SpiderChris: have a good weekend Bob, Mikael.... ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: New versions tonite?? rusty: I should have B30 of the web and BBS today, and a Windows B16 ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: Terrific. WIll have my new drive installed for backups and my new bulletproof bbs up. Thanks and see you next week. Enjoyed it. SpiderChris: bye... rusty: Great , c ya! ¥ Bob ¥ Headgap ¥ Memphis: bye