SpiderChris: greetings all Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Hello Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Did you work on Jose's system? SpiderChris: jose's replacing the lightbulbs in his office. i bet he's sorry he painted the windows black now ;-) Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: I want to know who stayed up to post b19 at 3:30 your time SpiderChris: Bob, actually it wasn't posted that late ;-) rusty: Its the same B19, the comment was just modifeid then SpiderChris: it does have that modification date though, we're looking into what might have caused that Brian (Wang's): Hey. JimSmith-CMUG: When you guys going to slow down .. it's hard to keep up ;-) Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Well, I thought someone was really dedicated there. rusty: not THAT dedicated rusty: I only do virtual coding at 3am Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: WE used to say that boy is dedicated to the point of stupidity. SpiderChris: generally, if you release something at 4:00am, it's bound to have stupid bugs. (<--- learned in college) Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: It would scare me. I bought a power server pro - no more down time now. Brian (Wang's): I have been running people into the TF box with a telenet connection from a terminal. It works great under Mactcp but it is real slow under OT. Is this something that can be fixed because I may have to open up a lot of connections and doesn't MacTcp have a limit???? SpiderChris: hello richard Spider Hosey: Hello everyone! Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Hey Brian (Wang's): Hey! SpiderChris: richard, you may want to turn off your microphone.... you're sending audio.... (and lots of it) rusty: Mactcp has a 64 connection limit Spider Hosey: richard, are you a TeleFinder sysop? Brian (Wang's): Under OT it looks like a 300baud modem. rusty: its modem emualtion :) Brian (Wang's): Is it Apples OT doing it? rusty: I think its a feature of port 23, adds a touch of realism rusty: I'll have to take a look at it rusty: I haven't used telnet in a long time Brian (Wang's): We talked about before and you said it had something to do with dealing with such small packets that telnet does. Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: TF enables our terminal users to have email. Really a bonus for us. Richard: Good Afternoon Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Hello Richard Spider Hosey: Hello Richard Richard: Hi Chris, how are you doing ? SpiderChris: Hi Richard, doing well, and yourself? Brian (Wang's): I really like having the ability to have terminal users in on the email and they can even view text files and such. We are using old HP terminals. Richard: Ok, it«s turned off, excuse me ! Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Some of our people announced in a Senior staff meeting that it was impossible to do that..... Richard: Question fot SI Team: With last beta downloaded today I have several crashes error -11 any suggestion ? rusty: I just logged into our port 23, it's not 300 baud, but its not super fast either Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: What OS are you on Richard? Richard: Hi Jose & Bob. Spider Hosey: Hello Richard Richard: Yes, here it«s 7:21PM just starting the weekend hurray ! rusty: Richard: Please make a "stdlog" of any crash and send it to me for analysis + send details of your system config, TeleFinder config, and what was happening at the time of the crash. Richard: Question for SI Team: With last beta downloaded today I have several crashes error -11 any suggestion ? JimSmith-CMUG: Go to MacOS 7.6.1 Richard: MacOS 7.5.5 7.6 hasn«t been released yet in spanish (I«m from Barcelona SPAIN remember the Olympics ;-) SpiderChris: Richard, change your settings to get better results: Send min 5, Send max 25, Recv min 5, Recv max 28 Spider Hosey: Richard: Do you you have the 'PowerPC Interupt Extension'? Richard: Hello Jose already said hello, are I«m loosing packets Ŕ? Richard: Rusty, I«m bored about stdlog I have sent so many of them without results ;-) Richard: Good Idea, MacOS 7.6.1 hasn«t been released yet in Barcelona, perhaps next month ;-( Richard: Done Chris, cuseeme settings are how you suggested. Richard: Better ? rusty: well, they may be boring, but they do give us the details necesary to fix a problems if it exists in TeleFinder. SpiderChris: richard, yes. SpiderChris: richard, your chat was taking a long time to get here, it should be much better now Richard: Ok, rusty: If you want to avoid crashes, it is best to stick with the release versions of the software. Richard: My camera has live, it just moves from his original place ;-) Brian (Wang's): Also with the terminals users I would like to put them into tty automaticly without the menu. I have looked at the resources with resedit but how can I delete the menu and have TTY auto and have the telefinder clients just supported? rusty: I don't think so Brian Richard: I would like Rusty, but Alberto likes downloading betas and I have no problem about them only that they turn me crazy, users calling etc... you know . Brian (Wang's): Can I take out the other choices and leave just TTY? Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Could he blank out all but the one choice rusty: Yes you can take out the other choices. Brian (Wang's): Will the TF user still work? rusty: yes, tf user doesnt use menus rusty: We will have a b20 release on TF Server later today Brian (Wang's): The reason I ask is the login takes a few steps and I am trying to reduce them alittle. Is there anything else I can do to put them right into mail? Can I take out the MMM thing? Can I have it jump to the email menu? Brian (Wang's): With the 21st coming up is a b less version of 5.5 coming out? Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: I won't even get a chance to install b19?? rusty: It fixes a problem in Binhex downloading from the Web, and should have better performance with Open Transport. rusty: B20 has a July 29 Expiration date. Brian (Wang's): Cool! Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Makes me happy. I am getting hit harder and harder as people find my site. rusty: 5.5 will be released when all the bugs are fixed, and a few missing items from Plug-in support are added. rusty: Oh, b20 also work with the Tango -FM plugin Brian (Wang's): To back you can do like pointcast and have a update over the net, No downloading only a yes or no do you want to update requester???? rusty: Mail Server b11 also has the July 29 expiration date Brian (Wang's): Hey I tried pictserver and pictserver pro and they didn't work all the way. Pictserv pro showed the request but the file wasn't transfered to the web. Brian (Wang's): Pictserver is a acgi that converts tiff, pict and some other formats on the fly. Brian (Wang's): The pro version will scale the image and do thumbnails. rusty: do they have a plugin? rusty: Brian, is there a PictServer plugin? Brian (Wang's): No plugin just acgi. rusty: We don't plan any additional efforts in modifying our ACGI, support. Only plug-ins from here on. rusty: I'm working on a Plug-in development kit for C++... Richard: Well, so know I have 7.6 do you recommend me installing it in the TF server«s ? rusty: I've sent it to Jonathon Paisley, and he's promising a usermail Plug-in rusty: We're using 7.6 here, with open transport 1.1.2. it is the most reliable Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Make sure you update your hard drives and you understand that you must have the updated version of Norton Utils, and CD Rom Software Brian (Wang's): What is the mosapi stuff? rusty: I think he called in teh TFMail cgi rusty: MOSAPI is another Plug-in API, it was the one resnova came up with rusty: The MOSAPI version works better with B19 than the W* version. rusty: Both work very well with b20 John: hi folks Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Hello John! Spider Hosey: hi john SpiderChris: hey john, how goes? rusty: Hi John -- welcom to the TeleFinder chat? Richard: Hi John. rusty: ! not ? John: not too bad. btw, I keep forgetting to set my name correctly... just a sec rusty: I was just talking about you :) jonathan paisley@hi: heh, much better Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: It the english guy jonathan paisley@hi: who? SpiderChris: yea, i was kinda confused. i figured your nickname would be 'jon', not 'john'... Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: I like your new logo johnathon. jonathan paisley@hi: yeah, it is, sometimes... I'm a little unpredictable when it comes to nicks. rusty: you jon, I was talking about Plugins and the TFMail cgi jonathan paisley@hi: which one is that? rusty: Oh, thats the wrong name for it jonathan paisley@hi: ahh. I have fixed a few probs with the current ver of the cgi. rusty: The GCI that lets a user read his email via the web jonathan paisley@hi: it's a little friendlier, you can remotely link to user manager, and also it nicely wraps the message now :) rusty: Very good! I have to try that out soon. rusty: Macnexus has been making an interesting WebBBS. rusty: www.macnexus.org Richard: Hey Guys, Marck asks me to ask how to send events from applescript to User Manager, any docs available ? jonathan paisley@hi: what exciting things are there? rusty: Aaron has implemented a near TF User look-alike jonathan paisley@hi: applescript isn't really adequate for dealing with um, so I've found jonathan paisley@hi: ?? jonathan paisley@hi: oh, I getcha. Sorry ;) rusty: in web pages, and has a chat room made by a Frontier script. jonathan paisley@hi: very nice. Does the chat automatically update? rusty: The "list of users" online looks just like the TF User version. Richard: We want to make a script to create users from filemaker ? suggestions ? Docs ? FAQ ? ;-) jonathan paisley@hi: custom generated gifs? rusty: The chat uses client pull . jonathan paisley@hi: export to a text file and then import maybe? rusty: Chris put a Frontier drop-in for user manager online, that would be the best way to interface with User Manager rusty: Dont user AppleScript, use Frontier jonathan paisley@hi: I would try it out, but netscape crashed on me about 1/2hr ago, and I don't want to relaunch it. I meant to restart the coputer but I left it to do so and came back to see a 'do you want to save...'. arrgh jonathan paisley@hi: yeah, applescript can only deal with direct object resposnes in appleevents rusty: ( this is John behind me ) Richard: Exporting doesn«t keep the privileges in User Manager. jonathan paisley@hi: I was wondering... jonathan paisley@hi: oh Brian (Wang's): I do the filemaker user thing already just export on fmpro and import on tf. jonathan paisley@hi: sounds like frontier would be your best bet then Richard: Filemaker doesn«t support Frontier (that«s what Marck says, the one with the Beatles look). SpiderChris: richard, no i doesn't... just name, password, phone number. we plan to improve import/export in the next version. (will be rewriting most of user manager) rusty: Chris, can you point him to that Frontier thingy? Brian (Wang's): Just set your new user settings (defaults) before you import. Richard: Perfect Chris, meanwhile a script to add user from our Filemaker database would be great. SpiderChris: sure Rusty.... jonathan paisley@hi: if anyone want's the new tfemail, it's at http://www.highlander.net.uk/tfemail.acgi.sit SpiderChris: richard, what's your email address? i'll email you some frontier scripts that work with user manager.... Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Thanks, Jonathan - I'll try and set it up this weekend. Brian (Wang's): I am going to start working on a account builder from the web with tf and other servers NT, unix. All from the tf web server on our system here. So if anyone wants to share info I can do email. Richard: Richard_Drevet@seker.es thanks chris I will look at them. Brian (Wang's): On the tfb18 docs you have something about the mail server comands. What is that? Richard: Seems interesting Brian, we have several Linux Box and would be interested in knowing more about your idea. Brian (Wang's): I'm usally around the here each week. jonathan paisley@hi: what do you mean by an 'account builder', brian? excuse my ignorance... SpiderChris: i'm going to take off here folks, have a good weekend! Richard: Good weekend Chris. Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: You too Chris :-) Brian (Wang's): I want to have a web client with a form that has username, phone number etc and then a check box for each of the systems that passwords are needed and if you have the proper access rights it adds the user to these systems with scripts on all the systems. Spider Hosey: Brian, the mail server commands described in the docs refer to the fact that you tell MS to send email when certain web pages are hit jonathan paisley@hi: ok, bfn Brian (Wang's): Maybe have it email some people as a way to inform of the addtions. Spider Hosey: These commands are part of SPML Brian (Wang's): Are the docs on this in with the server. Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: I really appreciated the templates you added to the last release and I hope that you will continue to add these as you add features. jonathan paisley@hi: sounds complicated! Spider Hosey: Yes. Richard: Well Guys, I must leave weekend starts now for me , nice to talk . Brian (Wang's): I have some buddies on other systems doing new users with perl scripts that I might be able to copy. Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: But a timesaver for a big org with multiple accesses. By Richard Spider Hosey: I've been pushing Rusty to include more and more as we go along... Spider Hosey: Well, I better get going too...Have a great weekend everyone! Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: I added pulldowns to my homepage and will encourage my users to use them now that I see how they are done. Makes it easy for use amateurs. jonathan paisley@hi: till next time folks! Brian (Wang's): I already have a script here and there to do these things I just want to put them in one place. Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: See you Jonathan. WIll stop into Highlander to the cgi. THanks. Brian (Wang's): See ya. Looks like it time to go. Spider Hosey: bye jon! Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: ANything new on Lollipop Jim? Bob Nunn Ą Headgap: Oh well Looks like everyone is left. See you all next week!