SpiderChris: Hi Bob Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Hello Chris! SpiderChris: how's it going? Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Installing TF User and Quicktime on an IBM Thinkpad w/WIndows 95. SpiderChris: ahh.... Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: The screen just went black SpiderJose: Hi Bob! Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Its not a bug its a feature SpiderJose: =) Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: What modem setting do you think I should choose?? SpiderChris: the setting for the hayes accura 28.8 works with a majority of modems. good to start with Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: thanks Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Well I think it is working. I will have to hook up my modem line later to try it. I am unfortunately becoming proficient at installing the windows versions SpiderJose: Which modem setting are you lookinf for Bob? SpiderJose: looking =) SpiderJose: Hi Bob W! SpiderChris: hi bob wright Bob Wright: Greetings to all! Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: I have an IBM thinkpad that our company bought one of our salesmen. He of course has no idea what equipment it came with and I dont want to dissamble it. Bob Wright: I was a bit late -- fighting with this darn camera ;-) SpiderChris: no prob Bob W, i think i've set the record for being late.... ("oh, 10:30? we're supposed to be in a chat" ;-) Bob Wright: Bob N: I took your advice and downloaded lasso lite.....nice! I went from 11 second search to 5 seconds....nice speed Bob Wright: Chris: haha Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: I am in the middle of my annual publishing nightmare I have to have close to 500 pages of color catalogs to the press by Wed. AHHHH!!!!! SpiderChris: yikes.... Bob Wright: :-/ SpiderChris: hey jose, i might recommend a little brightness adjustment there.... SpiderChris: um... too much Bob Wright: or a new razor, chris! ;-() Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Chris, I was starting to get nervous. I am glad you put up a note about the server expiring. I hope you make the deadline on the new beta SpiderChris: hehe SpiderJose: how's that? =) Bob Wright: ahhh..he DOES need a shave ;) SpiderChris: Bob N, we already missed it :-( expired last night at midnight. we'll have b4 out today Bob Wright: we are busting on Jose and he walks out ;) SpiderChris: hehe Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Why is my system still up or is it?? SpiderChris: Might want to check it.... SpiderJose: Razor...what's that? Bob Wright: Jose: haha SpiderJose: Just went to turn on the lights... SpiderJose: it makes me feel like im mot working in a dungeon Bob Wright: I hate when I have a question and can not remember it UGHNESS ;) SpiderJose: mo=not Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: I had a salesman come in and I was going to show him how ez it was to move around the systems including my personal one. It didnt hook?? Maybe it was 12 today and my clock was out 12 SpiderChris: Rusty will probably not be in the chat this morning.... although there's a remote chance that he'll make it.... Bob Wright: OH, I remember: Chris: we will need speechlib in order to run the new telefinder? SpiderChris: Bob W, no you wont... that was my mistake. If running TF/User 5.2b1 it requires speech manager, but i fixed that in b2 that is now online. Bob Wright: When did it come on-line...I checked today around 9:30 est and I rerceived b1 SpiderChris: It put it only approx 11:30 est. SpiderJose: Just for fun... Bob Wright: ahh...coolio :) SpiderJose: "DEAR MADAM, I CAN SEE YOU,RE A VERY INTELLIGENT PERSON AND HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF HUMOUR. YOUR DESTINY IS QUITE DIFFERENT TO OTHERS. TO FIND OUT MORE, CONTACT ME SOON!" SpiderChris: despite my devotion, it's doubtful you'll ever see me in the office at 6:30 in the morning ;-) SpiderChris: hmmm..... i think this person wants money jose SpiderJose: This was an email sent to me this morning in reference to my palm reading page... SpiderJose: What makes you say that? Bob Wright: hmm.....nteresting folks on the west coast ;) Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: But maybe 11 pm on a Sunday (my time) you helped me when I first started SpiderChris: "contact me soon" = "pay up buddy to hear more" SpiderJose: Hey! I'm a So. Cal native! Bob Wright: oh come on chris...didnt you write a few programs for TF BEFORE they hired you??? ;-) SpiderChris: Well, nighttime is different ;-) SpiderChris: Yes, i wrote Suzie before I started here.... Bob Wright: well, time to ask Rusty for backpay ;-) SpiderChris: hehe SpiderChris: BTW, guess who's homepage I saw on KOCE last night Jose? Bob Wright: ok, another q: we wil ever be able to limit the size of a mailbox? I have kids -- read as 3rd, 4th 5th graders -- who just dont know proper etiquette with ceaning out their mail SpiderJose: Who's? SpiderChris: YOURS! (and MINE) SpiderChris: I was watching PCTV, and they were covering MacWorld Boston... and they talked about TeleFinder. I couldn't believe it... they showed both of our homepages. Bob Wright: on the news? was that before or after the OJ telecase? ;) Bob Wright: telecast SpiderJose: That was during =) SpiderChris: Bob W, that's a feature that i've added to Suzie, but that version hasn't been release.... i'll try to get that out soon. Bob Wright: Chris: I'd appreciate it...I have close to 5 megs of wasted space :-/ Bob Wright: another q: I am using Majordomo...cant I just put MS for my smtp server? It seems silly for email to go out off of my lan, to my ISP, and then back to another machine on my LAN SpiderChris: Bob, yes you can. Bob Wright: ahh...so for the list preferences I can just put peic.pps.k12.va.us which is the TF machine instead of mail.whro.org which is my ISP?!?! Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: We do that here at Wang's. We have an NT system who handles our incoming mail but all the TF mail is routed to TF Mail Server. SpiderChris: Bob, you bet! Bob Wright: ahhh....I will change that...thanks! :-) SpiderChris: (oops, that was to Bob W) Bob Wright: another q! (sorry, I have been busy this week) ;-) Bob Wright: I received the folloiwng info from MS: Bob Wright: :-( I cant cut and paste :`-( Bob Wright: hang on a sec ;) Bob Wright: well, it says "Requested action aborted: local error in processing" SpiderChris: how come you can't copy & paste? SpiderChris: Was that in a bounced message? Bob Wright: I received that when I sent an email from Majordomo to all users...that message was sent back to me for ONE user, but the user is a VALID user Bob Wright: I dunno why it wont let me cut and paste :-/ SpiderJose: Hi Drew Drew's Office (NY): HELP!!!! Our 5.2 server is crashing when it opens nodes! SpiderChris: Bob W, could you send me the bounced message? i dont really need the body of the actual message, but i'd like to see all of the headers... i can probably tell you what happened from that. Drew's Office (NY): We had to go back to 5.1, but we lost our new customer signup forms since 5.1 does not support SPML forms logging Wolf: The beta Expired at midnight last night.. Drew's Office (NY): No wonder why. Is there a new beta? Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Set your clock back? Wolf: I found this the hard way too =) SpiderChris: Drew, we're working on b4 and will have it online today ASAP SpiderChris: For now, you can run 5.1 or set the clock back a day (kinda yucky solution though).... Bob Wright: Chris: its on the way :) SpiderChris: thanks Bob W SpiderChris: Sorry, we lost track of the expiration... didn't find out until last night about 9:00pm.... Bob Wright: you are chris on TF? Drew's Office (NY): I'll set back the clock back. Thanks. Wolf: We're restarting now.. SpiderChris: Hi Wolf, who are you btw just so we all know? Bob Wright: Chris: your login == chris ? SpiderChris: yea, chris is fine. Wolf: Apologies.. Jeremy Tinley (aka Matt Snider) I am the sysop.. he pays for it SpiderChris: real login is chris silverberg, but anything to chris goes to me. SpiderChris: hehe, gotcha. welcome Jeremy. Wolf: Thanks =) Drew's Office (NY): A new beta would be very cool at MacConnect gang. I'll have the guys keep checking the SI BBS. Drew's Office (NY): Later all Bob Wright: Chris: it has been sent :) Bob Wright: Chris: btw, I know why some of the email was sentback, but not the line where it says "local error" SpiderJose: Hi Rusty SpiderChris: okay bob w..... looking at that now... Bob Wright: Bob N: thanks for the info about lasso....it is working well here. I might look into getting the full blown version so I can have some security :) Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Glad it helped. Unfortunately I have had no time to explore it much. Bob Wright: Bob N: I like the fact it takes less than 1mb of ram :) SpiderChris: Bob W, what is the name or IP address that your mail server is running on? Bob Wright: Chris: Pelagic.pps.k12.va.us 206.241.104.3 Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: They seemed long on code and short on advertising to me. Tango is well advertised and has move commercial features. Lasso looked like an opportunity. Bob Wright: MS == peic.pps.k12.va.us or 206.241.104.2 Bob Wright: Bob N: For a simple databse, lasso is doing the school system some good :) Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: I knew the price was right. What are you using it for?? Scheduling?? Bob Wright: Chris: btw, all other 700+ users did not have any problems with that peice of email being delivered...its almost like MS choked or something? SpiderChris: Bob W, no the error is consistant... i got it just now in a test... when i connect to Mail Server and issue a verify command, i get the same error for "aringnalda"... Bob Wright: Bob N: right now I am uisng it to distribute the library's databse of films, books, etc. I hope to have more dept's databses on-line :) I am working on my own right now: a databse of my training dates :) Richard: Hello ! SpiderChris: Bob W, sounds like the mailbox may be missing.... SpiderChris: hi richard Richard: Hi Chris, how are you ? SpiderJose: Hello Richard SpiderChris: pretty good Richard. Are you a TeleFinder sysop, or a user? Richard: Hi Jose. Richard: Telefinder Sysop at SEKER BBS in Spain. SpiderChris: Oh, Seker BBS right? SpiderChris: cool welcome aboard... Richard: That«s it,. SpiderJose: Chris has photograhic memory =) Richard: I have a problem with the expiration date at my server of the last two betas, can I get a fix for it ? Bob Wright: Chris: that is what it was!!! even though UM had the path for the mailbox, I checkedand it wasnt there :-/ ...dont ask me *shrug* but THANKS! SpiderJose: We're in the process of putting up a new beta Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Bob W - is that an Intranet application for you?? SpiderChris: Bob W, well that error in the mailform should be more specific.... 451 error local processing isn't very helpful. Bob Wright: Bob N: uhh....I dont know what you are asking...too many events going on righ tnow ;) ask again ;) SpiderJose: It will be up ASAP...In the meantime, you set your clock back one day to fix the problem Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Is that inside or can we see what you are doing?? INTRA or INTER?? Bob Wright: Bob N: I understand...its not only INTRA, but INTER :) Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Can we see?? Address?? Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Richard: Ok, when do you think it will be available, I have my server with yesterdays date and Mail Server is doing strange thinks with messages, I suppose due to the change of date. Bob Wright: Bob N: check out: http://pps.k12.va.us/cgi/catalog/Search.html Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Thanks will take a look. As soon as we get something worthwhile up I ll let you know it will likely be after Christmas Bob Wright: Bob N: ok..... Bob Wright: does anyone know of a form cgi which iwll send to various email addresses? SpiderChris: i dont offhand.... Bob Wright: Bob N: like you I am still in the middle of bulding the web server (I guess everyone can say that, actually) so some things are HEAVILY under construction :/ Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: I think you can put address, address, address in your html code Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: You could also set up a fake user with a forwarding feature and have your page send to the fake user Bob Wright: I have form.acgi runing now, but it sends output to one user only...I want to find something wherre the kids can put a form on their pages and have it emailed to them :) SpiderChris: hi justin SpiderJose: hi justin! Bob Wright: Bob N: but we have 17,000+ students.....we could potentially have 5,000 differrent form pages Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Hello Justin! SpiderJose: Hi Justin Justin28: hi Justin28: I have a questuion Justin28: using TF server 5.2 Justin28: it just suddenly started quiting on me whenever I open a node Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Jose, Chris, I think I sent my log and config to you, did either of you have any time to look?? TF Net is still not working for me. SpiderJose: The 5.2 beta expired at midnight...Justin Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Set the clock back Richard: Hello, Did the reflector went down ? Richard: Or is my link with USA ? SpiderJose: Richard: nope Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: You just dropped out Richard. Happens to us all every once in a while Richard: Maybe my carriers link is weak today... SpiderChris: Bob N, sorry i haven't looked at the config file yet. i'll do it today, i promise ;-) SpiderJose: We're about to put b4 online...should be up any time now Justin28: cool thanks Justin28: hey I noticed one small bug Justin28: when you go to view user list in TF user - it shows their phone number regardless of whether publish phone is checked in user info in User Manager Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Getting the new versions out of course has to take priority. I appreciate it though. Richard: I was asking about the beta expiration, 1 hour , 2 hours ? I must live in 30 minutes and I would like to set the new beta with the correct time in my server. Richard: Could you tell me who is who at SI ? I mean to direct my beta questions to the correct person because I never know who is the developper for... SpiderJose: Change the year to 95 Justin28: Incidently - I was a NS (Resnova) sysop but after the shocking news this week - I'm back on with TF SpiderChris: Justin, only for users that have sysop capabilities..... for regular users, they will not see the phone number if the field is not checked Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Microsloth godzilla's the industry again SpiderChris: Richard, it's going to be at least a couple hours Richard: I know but mailserver doesn«t work properly, currently is running with yesterday«s date. SpiderChris: Richard, send your questions to "support", your message will then get to the correct person(s0 Bob Wright: Is the ability to have your conference(s) availalbe via WWW possible with version b3 or is that coming? Richard: I was also a FirstClass Sysop and Resnova Sysop time ago, and I«m also astonished about the news from Microsoft & Resnova. SpiderChris: welcome back Justin :-) SpiderChris: Yea, that was interesting. ResNova i guess still exists, but without their top developers? I wonder how long they'll be around SpiderChris: Bob W, that is coming in beta 4 Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Our firewall is killing our CUSEEME sofware. Does anyone know what settings I would look at so that I can use our ISDN connect. SpiderChris: Bob N, you need to make sure that UDP port 7648 is available... Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Wonderful. I knew it was likely a config problem. Will be back next week much faster SpiderChris: cool. Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Will that be a bad security problem?? Is 2600 running hack articles about the hole this creates this week?? SpiderChris: Well, time for me to get back to developing. Any last questions before we wrap up? SpiderChris: Bob N, no its not a security problem unless you have something sensitive that is also using UDP 7648. (ie not very likely) Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Great thanks Chris, Looking forward to the new betas. SpiderChris: Okay, thanks for coming all... i'm off. See ya next week perhaps. Bob Wright: until we chat again....bye folks SpiderJose: Bye everyone! Bob Nunn Ą Memphis: Bye back to the grind!